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Originally Posted by monir
And while I'm at it, I'll just go ahead and say it already.... this isn't good writing. *ducks tomatoes* The script is pretty basic which is pretty much there to instigate a reaction more than anything else. And judging from how most of the post expressed their take on the episode, I'd say those reactions are more appropriate and called for than the ones who are trying to understand Haru. And that's you too Relentless. Just say it with me, "I've seen better."
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Hmmm...appealing to the majority is the weakest of all possible argumentative strategies in my eyes. Just because a voice is louder doesn't make their points any more applicable or valid and frankly I'd worry less about what other people think and just stick to what you think and the point you're trying to make. Super weak argument here and I can't help but still feel that people and specifically you here are taking out grievances over things that happen in many a show and applying it specifically to Accel World because it's the cool thing to do for certain parts of this arc, which is why I keep coming back to the label of "picky/choosy" here. There's nothing specifically wrong with the character development of Haru, it's that people have chosen to make a stand here because they feel they need to in order to go with the flow of the rage that they've been told is supposed to come with the arc.
Really still can't help but think that Dr. Casey is 100% right and that swap out Haru for any other character....hell even swap out his design and voice and the reaction here would be that much more mild. I've seen this sort of thing argued over before a bit, but rarely such a blowup and the only factor that's really different here is that it's fat little Haru. There's so many developments for so many other more shall we say "treasured" main characters that I could spin as "forced" if I really wanted to, but why bother unless it's something I'm truly bothered by or actually feel I've been disenfranchised by witnessing happen.
Anyway this episode has passed and from the next episode we're already seeing Haru take a different altogether new path so I'm tempted to say this argument is more or less becoming obsolete. I still say it's a whole lot of blood, sweat, anger and tears over a whole lot of nothing and that people overreacted big time like they always seem to when things don't go the way they expected them to or in the most entitled of scenarios the way they wanted them too. I'm sure I'll see even worse next week as well.
P.S: I'd probably be willing to acknowledge some of the posters grievances here if they actually own them more instead of trying to project it back onto the show as it's fault and that's it's all because of the shows "bad writing" and nothing at all to do with how they are perceiving it. Now of course people have to actual try to prove this point since they've taken it up and frankly I don't think they've been doing a very good job of convincing anyone.
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Originally Posted by novalysis
Just watch 16. I look forward to your comments on 16, because I don't really think 15 should be treated as a self-contained story in itself.
It's worth noting that Noumi is in no way a known quantity. There is no prospect of KYH returning swiftly. Haru is a boy with horrendously low self-esteem, and needs others to strengthen his backbone. If Haru was female, what Noumi did to him would be quite similar to rape. Whatever development Haru has undergone is not enough for him to deal with someone like Noumi (yes, as mid-grade boss villain material he is) solo.
I prefer not to take a reductionist view and treat each episode as a self-contained story anyway, so I think throwing egg-tarts at Haru , or the author, Kawahara is premature until we see this arc play out to it's ultimate conclusion.
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Agree, can't help but think that again people are getting a little too into the heat of the moment of the arc they've already been sold as being "rage-inducing" and are getting ahead of themselves, but if there's something I've learned of late it's that asking people to exhibit patience when it comes to ongoing narratives like Accel Worlds it's unfortunately probably asking to much. We live in the reality where angry fanboys wants what they wants and they wants it now or else they get cranky dagnabbit.