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Old 2012-11-19, 07:58   Link #130
kuromitsu
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Originally Posted by Malkuth View Post
Well, the anime messed up the plot pretty badly in order to appeal to a greater audience with a source material that is definitely not for kids, however delicately it is narrated.
*sigh* You do realize that the novel is not something niche, right? I've read about middle-school and high-school teachers recommending it to their students, and that's pretty much correct. The only objectionable or controversial part in the novel is the sex, but even the sex scenes are nothing particularly "scandalous" or even interesting, and the whole thing is just not particularly "mature" material. I mean, if it was the early 20th century it might have been, but it's the early 21th century.

The anime is not cutting the porn because it's trying to be family friendly, it's cutting it because 1) in case of the first one, they're 12-YEAR-OLDS. Good luck trying to get that on TV... 2) as for the rest, they would be gratuituous. (As they are in the manga: for anyone who claims the manga is doing a better job, no, the manga actually inserted random hot two girl action scenes not in the novel without any explanation.) The only reason they're not that gratuituous in the novel is because of Saki's internal narration throughout them, but since they can't exactly do that in the anime, the scenes wouldn't add anything to the anime except for providing some fap material for horny viewers (but then if someone wants that they can find other shows that were made specially for that reason).

And the anime is still not messing up the plot "pretty badly". Apparently they left out one important bit of information that would've made this episode easier to understand, but otherwise from what I can tell the plot is still progressing pretty much as it should.

Also, I'm not touching this debate, but...

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Originally Posted by Malkuth View Post
During other historical periods being homo/bi-sexual was socially acceptable and more common than heterosexual intercourse.
Not really. Homoromantic relations were, if not more acceptable than heterosexual, but at least acceptable during most of history, as long as sexual behavior wasn't involved. When it comes to sex, social acceptability depends on the culture and the historical period - sometimes it was acceptable as long as one was doing the penetration not the other way around, later the whole thing was condemned as sodomy (such as in Europe in the middle ages). But being the "woman" in a homosexual relationship was regarded as something no self-respecting adult man does. Even in the Japanese middle ages where homosexual relations were common, it's not like you could just go and bang any good-looking guy. There was a hierarchy about who can penetrate whom and under what circumstances. Anything outside that was frowned upon.
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