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Originally Posted by Kirayuki

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Spoiler for Answer:

As I have said, that was she enacting the persona of "Asahi Haruka".

Asahi Haruka have "The Mission", while
Konohana Lucia doesn't have anything, and she want to be "needed" or have a "purpose"....

Clearly, she want to be the latter. But because of Kotarou didn't gave the wanted answer until late, she pretty much had no choice other than to live as Asahi Haruka. I have said before that the whole "wanted to kill Kotarou" shouldn't be taken seriously, because it was clearly not her true "wish".

Spoiler for Lucia:

I never really buy that either personality completely takes over, I think she's one person but she is a bit brainwashed and clearly very confused toward the end. Everything about her contradicts at the end, her wanting to complete the mission, then abandoning orders to go back to Guardian and instead go to Kazamo with the intent to die, her despair and her hope conflicts and without Kotarou intervening it is probably her despair that would win out if left to her own devices. Throughout the scene she always leaves the door open for Kotarou to convince her, and she isn't bent on killing anyone until the very end when her frustration completely takes over, so she has some judgement throughout, even when she tries to kill him she remembers Kotarou fondly. But anyway you cut it, and all I am hearing are excuses to why she behaves that way, it's like you guys are saying that that's not the "real" her. So in a way, you guys are agreeing with me that that scene is just gratuitous if you really put a magnifying glass on it. But personally I don't think it's as clear cut as saying well she's under the influence of this or that, which is why she treats Kotarou that way. Not just at the end when she tries to kill him, but throughout, she doesn't treat him with any love because she's absorbed in her own problems. It's just not a cute side of her, and doesn't really make sense from the character perspective and from the relationship perspective it just seems silly for them to be arguing over life and death because Kotarou can't find the right words to satisfy her.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

You know, I don't disagree with you, it is just that... I still don't get why

Spoiler for Lucia's route:

Lucia kept "Konohana Lucia" name after all since... it was Brenda who called her this way. And using the latin word for Light no less... on my first read, I thought Kotarou would call her Haruka at some point for real, but nope.

Really, that part just puzzled me considering anything related to Brenda prolly should be taboo for both Kotarou and Lucia in the end
Unless I missed the explanation, due to how distant it was.

Spoiler for Lucia:

I don't think Kotarou would ever call Lucia, Haruka, as that would bring back bad memories of the Asahi Haruka curse, Lucia seems fine being called Lucia, so if I were in Kotarou's place, I just wouldn't try it, because it might make her mad or bring out bad memories. Also I explain more below about what the name Asahi Haruka seems to mean to her.

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Spoiler for Lucia:

IIRC wasn't it Lucia that had a mission and followed it while Haruka was the one that wanted Kotarou to need her? Near the end she realized that Kotarou loved Lucia, but never said he loved Haruka, she wanted Haruka to have someone that needed her because Lucia already had a purpose that she was following (the mission).
As such, I too found it a bit odd that Kotarou didn't call her Haruka once after he first revealed her identity.

Also...you guys gotta remember that Lucia was pumped full of drugs by Brenda which hindered her judgement and made her follow the mission. She only started showing signs of resisting the drugs when she refused to go back to the shelter as per ordered and went to the mall instead.
And that's not even mentioning the years she was with Brenda and her crew messing with her mind when she was in her formative years.

Spoiler for Lucia:

As I understand it, Lucia/Haruka refers to Haruka as the one who is cursed, the part of her that leaks poison, and can cause vibrations. She thinks that part of her is dirty and unlovable, unacceptable, and worst of all, she is most afraid that her poison will hurt or kill anyone she becomes close with. When Shizuru gets hurt, that leaves the opening for Brenda come in, as she is afraid that Kotarou will eventually leave because of that part of her, which is why in the end she wants Kotarou to accept that part of her. Even if he's become immune to it, she's afraid that he'll be disgusted by it and leave. Basically she is just really insecure.

Drugs, identity crisis, they're all plot devices to excuse the way she acts in the last scene. Whatever you want to attribute the way she acts at the end, she is really just acting like a brat, and Kotarou is acting like a dunce. Edit: If we excuse the way she acts to something then we aren't even arguing over her true feelings, which makes the whole scene even more trivial and pointless! I've argued over it with myself 1.5 years ago somewhere in this thread , I just can't find much meaning in the last scene, it's just reaffirmation of Kotarou's feelings for Lucia. A very very long and drawn out way, heck I think even Chihaya's who's the slowest of the group probably understood that Kotarou was going about it the wrong way by talking about breakthroughs in medicine to help Lucia. The way I've come to terms with it, is that the route needed a climax, it needed some action, but the whole "Kotarou needs to tell me my meaning in life, or I'll kill myself" back and forth dialogue was really lame, I wish I would have been spared of it. So personally I don't like that scene but YMMV.