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Old 2013-01-20, 12:57   Link #24
Vicious108
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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo View Post
Nobodies forcing you to read my comments or respond to them if you feel they're getting repetitive.
Fair enough, but the thing is, I really don't think I'm the only one who feels that way. I didn't know it when I discussed his character with you in the episode 13 thread and in this one because I've only just gotten into P-P, but I've read some of the previous episodes' threads since then, and it turns I'm far from the first person to express disinterest in your narrow-minded manner of looking at Makishima's character and in your attempts to intellectually diminish any discussion on him that goes beyond "he's a vile and disgusting murderer". Here's a couple of examples from other responses you received before I came along:

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Originally Posted by Triple_R View Post
It's fine to hate Makishima just as it's fine to hate a certain alien in Madoka Magica. But to understand such characters, you can't allow such hate to cloud your assessment of them. In their minds, what they're doing is right, and that's key to understanding these characters, imo.
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Originally Posted by Qilin View Post
I'm not defending his actions. I just want to prevent him from being boxed into a narrow-minded interpretation of his character. Let's judge him as a character rather than as a person, shall we?

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I was under the impression that were discussing his motives rather than the moral reprehensibility of his actions. All I want to do here is to discuss a character's actions without bringing moral biases into the picture.

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Again, the objective here is to analyze the character. Understanding the character's perspective is a necessity for that, and propagating generalizations borne from moral bias is counterproductive to that.
Now, fast forward to a month later, and you're still doing it. Someone else attempts to formulate an in-depth analysis of Makishima's character by looking at things from his perspective, and what happens? You fail to realize they're not defending him as a person but rather attempting to understand him as a character, so, in a knee-jerk moral crusade against someone who isn't even real, you attempt to rebuke said analyses based almost entirely on your personal moral biases, which are completely irrelevant to our aim of simply understanding the inner workings of the character's intricate mind and unique worldview.

So yes, it's become repetitive, to say the least. Of course, as you said, the discussion is free, but when more than one person has expressed disinterest in your responses to their assessment of Makishima's character, maybe it wouldn't hurt to rethink the way you go about them?

Or not, it's completely up to you, of course. Either way, I have now informed you of how I feel about your "insight" on Makishima's character, so just like I can simply ignore you whenever you decide to share it, you can in turn not expect a reply from me the next time I say anything about him and you feel the need to jump in and dumb it down with your "he's just a murderer, don't you dare try and see anything beyond that" schtick.

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Originally Posted by Qilin View Post
He's an individual who sees himself as an existence outside the system. If you combine that with his huge ego, you basically have a megalomaniac who believes himself to be in a position to judge everyone else.
Indeed. I loved the solemn manner in which he raised his head and closed his eyes just before slitting Yuki's throat, as if he were passing down divine judgment. Antagonists don't get much better than this.
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