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Originally Posted by chronotrig
Yes, but remember that Umineko is like a cat box. Unless the Game Master says something in red, it's possible for them to go back and change the story to something else.
So, Erika and Dlanor could only "know" that those people were alive for one of two possible reasons. Either the type of story Battler chose could only have resulted in those people being alive...or the Game Master's current plan in his head is always "active" on the game board.
By the second one, I mean that the Game Master can go back and change things at will as long as they don't conflict with what the detective has seen or any of the red text, but if the detective discovers a fact on the game board that the Game Master didn't want them to know, then the Game Master's temporary theory becomes a red truth, at least where that detective's observation is concerned. In other words, by making the detective piece see things, the meta-detective can peek into the Game Master's current plan.
Either way, to actually say in red that they were alive would probably take someone who knows more about how the game works than Erika or even Bern.
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The problem is that ep6 is the only one where we have no Meta-Character with Detective Autority on the gameboard (Battler still had it in ep1-4 even if he didn't know) so it's hard to speculate about this mechanic. You are right about that the GM being able to change the story that has already happen but would Battler really do it against Erika? I think he doesn't want to abuse the fact that she is not the detective. Even Beatrice at the end admit that she would not use a trick in witch her board perspective is faked, like make her being the rescuer.
Also even if "
It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and interpretations be heard" why should the human side piece "lie" to herself? Also i don't think the GM can change something the player (Meta-Erika) did. So if Meta Erika commanded her piece to "certainly" kill them, it would be strange for the gm to be able to "cancel" this command. So she is then able to claim their death in red, as it was an action she performed. The fact about them being alive is a direct consequence of this. Battler could probably change the story to make them dead shortly before she killed them but he didn't even know she was doing that (and it is actually strange why he didn't notice Erika actions)