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Originally Posted by evil|plushie
Beelzebub is popular because it's one of the better shounen mangas out there right now, which may not say much. But comparing it's popularity to KKOW is ridiculous because one came out in the 80s and has been done with for years.
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I kind of meant popularity in terms of perceived quality really, Not in terms of sales or anything.
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Originally Posted by Vampire
Is it just me or does anyone feel extremely bored with the fights? Beelzebub was suppose to be comedy focused, but now that they're a battle manga, it doesn't bring anything new on the table and being quite bland as an artwork as well as low creativity that doesn't exceed nothing other than a delinquent fight. I'm disappointed on it's progress and hoping it'll bring out something fresh and amazing. Flinging punches at one another isn't impressing anyone since we've seen it done multiple times in other mangas at a very common standard.
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Someone who gets it.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
You just hype KKOW too much.
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That's right, I tend to hype quality manga and criticize manga which i deem lacking in comparison. If my comments leads to more people reading KKOW, that's just an added bonus.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
Was there ever any shonen lead as awesome as Oga "what can we do to apologize?" (Oga 13 y/o) "Bow to me"
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I'd argue that Oga is based off a lot of shounen heroes, Mitsuhashi from KKOW included.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
and who cares if the plots are cliché? they way the author presents them are friggin hilarious
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Look i'll agree that being cliche up to an extent is acceptable for shounen. But the presentation for beelzebub is a hit-and-miss at a lot of times. It falls back too much on recycling, a lot more than other mangas, And when you recycle too much the manga loses its "soul"
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
oh and the trip to the demon world? Where is that comparable to any mainstream shonen plot? that was just so messed up, esp giant Baby Beel vs that monster thingy xD
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I said before that the arc was interesting but it quickly regressed back to the new school+ mode.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
oh and a big con for KKoW - the art is incredibly bad.
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I'd argue that the art style allows for a lot of facial expressions which increase the comedic value of the manga. But at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference, I firmly believe that most people who give the manga a chance will overlook the art to truly enjoy it.
Also i hardly think the art for beelzebub is much better to be honest, The 3-4 ways in which the eyes are drawn commonly for the characters is quite irksome.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
Angel Densetsu was way better imo, that even had a plot for some time.
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Angel Densetsu had a great start though it slowly deteriorated as it went on. I have yet to see such a dip in quality from KKOW over the same number of chapters.
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Originally Posted by LeaD36
And beelzebub likely has some of the most awesome characters out of the ongoing manga nowadays!
I mean : Oga?! AOI <3????? Hilda!!! Furuichi (nah, he´s just here for the lolz) etc. etc.
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And some of the most mundane, overused character stereotypes in shounen. But i guess the harem element adds to the appeal.
I don't see you or anyone else refuting any of the major points i made.
If someone were to actually read the current entirety of both manga's and present me with arguments as to why they believe beelzebub is better than KKOW I'd eagerly read and respond.