[ClannadDango]

Originally Posted by Ayu-ayu

Okay, I've had time now to recover and go back over this thread having read the whole story now.

A few thoughts:

Spoiler for Cake Lamda:

Actually this does get kind of stated in the tea party, in that dismembered Lamba's innards are all cotton candy and cake exterior, though this is stated in a somewhat sarcastic manner, essentially saying that this Tea Party would be free of any gruesome imagery. I don't think there's supposed to be any deep meaning to it other than to tie it to her candy-based attacks and such, which I assume is following her Halloween theme (though the astronomical-based attacks are clearly in turn derived from the konpeito "stars", which some folks will know about from various anime making the same allusion). Speaking of those attacks, I'm glad that the fighting game held off including her, now that there is all this new source material.

Spoiler for Doll-Beatrice:

If you get a perfect quiz score, Kinzo gives Ange!small a stuffed Beato plushie. When you get to the "Trick or Magic" (Hmmm, trick or treat?) question and choose Ange's path, before she goes through the door, Kinzo tosses her the Beato plushie to take with her to the future. If you chose trick, the doll appears in Ange's bag on the boat, but she decides it is meaningless and tosses it into the sea before Amakusa shows up. If you chose magic...it is never mentioned again?! Say what? Did I miss something? Also, what happens if you didn't have the doll, is the end the same for both still?

Spoiler for Erika vs. Battler closed room duel:

While I could understand Erika's choice, I can't believe that Battler would use such a cheesy closed room definition for his scenario...it was bloody hilarious though all the same.

Spoiler for Goat invasion of the Golden Land:

pirate ships--didn't see those coming! Yarr!

Spoiler for Clair:

It's interesting that while nearly every character (and their sprite) appears in Episode 8, Clair does not. I know Yasu-Beatrice is clearly in episode 8, but the Clair representation of her really was "buried" (and subsequently defiled) in episode 7.

Spoiler for Crack hypothesis/thinking out loud:

Now I'm wondering if episode 7 tea party is at least partly correct about the bomb. We are told that Yasu's mystery game, serious or not, was nullified in more ways than one. Perhaps the bomb itself is the "golden truth" which overwrites all red and blue alike. For once everyone (minus Eva, Battler and Yasu) are wiped out by the bomb, whether there was truly a string of murders (or if they were just fictional messages in bottles) becomes completely irrelevant to the later, newer "truth" (other than, essentially, who pressed the button and why?). The not-small bombs rip the guts from Yasu's tale. Of course there remains the question of what Eva saw that she needed to protect Ange from knowing, though. But is this still bound by the rules of Beato's game, or are all her rules only applicable to her made-up serial killing stories?

I can't really buy into the idea though that R07 was only making it up as he went along and cherry picking solutions from the fans. I agree that there was fan influence along the way (obviously, look at the Witch Hunters, for one example), but that such nods to the fans were generally called out. While I admit it is still a catbox, I feel (Subjective truth? Really? Yeah, I know. Sigh...) that a solution is there, though it is possible it could be still left to a last queen-type move, too. I certainly hope that Umineko Rei will settle this some more (or that something will come to light in the interim).

Lambda cake? That's real?