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Old 2012-12-21, 15:07   Link #877
Solace
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At what point does security become militia? Picture this scenario:

A department that handles security
A room where all activity in the building and surrounding areas are monitored
Cameras placed in every possible location
Security badges
Security checkpoints
Guarded gates
Armed guards patrolling the grounds
Metal detectors at all entrances
Barred windows

What does that sound like to you? At what point do you go from protecting citizens to imprisoning them?

Do we have more control over the internet so you can't research how to kill people? Do we require psych evals to get a job flipping burgers? Do we ban any media that could give someone "immoral" thoughts? Do we really need to encourage more Big Brother police state idiocy?

The issue being discussed is far too limited. We're trying to solve the problem of cultural violence using the structure of the culture that generated it in the first place. Of course the NRA is going to advocate guns, and blame other parts of society. It's who they are, it's what they believe. Of course you're going to see pushes for gun control. It's what those people believe. Of course you'll see pushes for better mental health. People believe that these incidents are caused by crazy people, while believing themselves to be the sane ones. These people, groups, are the products of the culture as it exists.

You cannot solve problems using the same thinking that created the problems in the first place.
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