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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gnawing away at Rokkenjima
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Originally Posted by goldendust
That is a valid interpretation.
Although I do wonder in terms of the "innocent murder game" theory, how do you interpret in EP6 where Yasuda tells Beatrice that one day she will destroy everything and revive everything as well bring blessing to all of the lovers.
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Yasuda in EP6? I don't remember such a scene. Anyway, it sounds just like murder game "kill" and "revive" to me.
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Originally Posted by Kealym
Just reread the scene in question, I think I have a better understanding of it now.
Spoiler for My wordy, wordy theory:
In this scene, Gaap questions Dlanor about the Guesthouse seals, and lands on the windows in the next room over (Shannon / Kuma / Nanjo / George / Yoshi) being unverified, and thus usable to escape. Dlanor, like a true troll boss, seals that very ARGUMENT on some extremely bullshitty grounds. More like "because Ryukishi wanted to add drama", really.
Cut to Meta. Ange goes "WTF, man?", and Featherine goes "Yeah, I get totally stuck on how to solve this." Ange laments that Dlanor has sealed their final move for the party bearing the responsibility of explaining things, Featherine goes "Well ... there's ONE more thing that could be done. But that can never be done again, and is part of Beato's heart." She also adds bits like "Battler should be the one to do it", "the curtain will finally lower", and "revealing this trick is the same as killing Beato."
Long story short, I think this move Featherine was referring to wasn't an alternate means of escape, but exactly what we saw Beato do - use extremely questionable reds and shift the burden of proof back onto the Mystery advocates. If we accept Shkanon as a major part of Beato's heart and puzzle, this particular closed room pretty much places it right out in the open, and is in fact the only puzzle in the entire series that even REQUIRES Shkanon as a solution. As Wanderer already stated, Beato skillfully allowed Erika the assumption that "Kanon escapes the Guesthouse, somehow", because it would've been EXTREMELY dangerous if Erika had focused on the Guesthouse, asking for more specific confirmations.
To reiterate, I'm guessing that when Featherine says it's a move that "can never be used again" (implying that it's indeed been used once already), she's referring to something like, red truths, very likely about Shannon and Kanon, that are perhaps rather arbitrary or subjectively true, as is convenient for the riddle being more difficult. For example, in this instance, it would seem that at least for awhile, Kanon just stops existing anywhere at all, until Shannon makes that ol' leap out a 2nd story window.
Mmm, I'm not sure what prior instance of use she might be referring to though - my first thought was Banquet's First Twilight, where Shannon and Kanon are both declared dead, but it's strongly implied that their physical body is not, so you get a really ... potentially wierd situation with who the hell is actually doing things. These are quick thoughts, though, there may be holes, I dunno.
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Yeah that's how I thought of it, too, that it was foreshadowing for the move Beatrice did make. Although I never once thought that "never being able to use the move again" implied that it was used before.
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Originally Posted by jjblue1
I've already told you why I don't like the multiple culprit theory in the games (in Rokkenjima Prime though things could have gone differently).
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I think multiple culprits might make sense for Banquet, at least, since Battler and Nanjo were killed by different people.
I still think the scene where Eva shoots Battler is weird, though.
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