[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by CrazyPerson

You keep ignoring the fact that it isn't publicly known that the factory is the must hit target. All your other points on a strike on her fails after that. But I'll humour you and keep going.

People in the know are right there in SA. Her shit's going to slow the information down, sure, but it'll get there.

That 700k is a one-time thing from the plane crashes. After that, nobody flies and no more body count from her unless you're dumb enough to fly on compromised networks.

Except as a result of the chaos she caused.

The less attacking her, the more likely she'll hold with advanced weaponry.

They need enough to kill 10 people with advanced equipment. (And how many drone operators among them?)

The difficulty is for your general to even know that the SA factory needs to be hit.

Yes, it is.

She's going to be as sure as hell to make sure no forces of any size even HEARS that the factory needs hitting.

So it'll take a few days instead of a few hours.

Only the CIA even has a remote guess that it's the factory. That's also ignoring the fact she can bribe them too, the country, that is.

Bribe them with what? What bribe's big enough to accept being carpet bombed with nukes? Especially when she just made the concept of money itself pretty shaky...

She supplies countries with predators.

Her employer does.

She's going to have more than a few dozen.

Does she? Those drones would have to be made, she'd have to have them on hand, and she'd need operators for them.

And all the predators have to do is take out any C&C and the army is routed.

Fuck C&C. Charge and kill everything that moves. It's a suboptimal tactic, but throw enough people at it and it'll work. She kills 700000 people in an instant and people will be ready to make plenty of sacrifices to take her down.

That's also not to mention bombers that she has at her disposal. After R, you saw how she dealt with Hex.

Logistics problems aside (the logistics of the bombers, I mean), those bombers can be taken down by planes with electronics that won't take commands from outside the plane. Or AA guns.

She doesn't have to let to PMC into her plan. All she needs to do is pay them, send them to an area probably farther away from the factory and say "hold the line, you'll have air support." That or bribe the SA army.

She tells them that, and they can't figure out she's the one threatening the world?

As for Jonah, well that's a storyline thing. While Koko has trusted him explicitly, she knew, he knew, and we all knew he wasn't that loyal to her and that he has his own conscience. She chose to expose herself that way for her own reasons.



Suppose she is destroying the banking system, she's in the perfect position to make a new world order. PMC's will want to cozy up to that. But that isn't the point, she isn't going to destroy the banking system, just selectively halt comms she doesn't like and traffic she doesn't want.

Our banking systems - our economies - are built on trust. She demonstrates that the worlds' computers can be brought down by the push of a button, that the button is in the hands of a madwoman, and that trust is gone. Not even Koko can rebuild it. She could drop dead three minutes after pulling the trigger and making her ultimatum, and it wouldn't matter: rebuilding the world will be a bitch, and it'll take a long time.

Consider the first 10% as the guards a bank robber shoots before gaining complete control of the bank.

Except they're not guards. They're civilians. And the robber's just showed herself to be a mass murdering crazy woman.

The police will still want to negotiate for the 90% as long as the robbers aren't shooting after control is gained.

You're thinking too small of a scale. Both Russia and the USA had each other's countries hostage for ages with nuclear arms. MAD doctrine ensured that neither struck. They nuke her, and while the nukes are in-bound, she wipes them out. So just like the cold war, neither will want to strike. I bet that if she wipes them pre-emptively, they'll launch a few weeks later if they're feeling bold; that preserves the MAD aspect.

Except as far as they're concerned, she'll have already launched. Why, then, not also pull the trigger?

Where does it say she's threatening more after the 700k?

You do, actually. You keep arguing that she'll do terrible things if people cross her. And remember, to her, those 700000 dead are just a show of force. A prologue to her telling the world how it's going to be.

You stay out of the air and she can't actively kill you.

As you've justly pointed out, there is so, so much more she can do to people.

And as I've explained, her very existence means the world is stuck in a bad place. Just keeping breathing isn't the worst thing she can do to the world, but it's close enough that the difference won't matter.

No country is going to think 700k worth the end of the world.

You think they'll surrender. I think there'll be plenty who, in panic or in rage, will strike at her.

More than that, you think the world can pretty much keep existing while she has that sword of Damocles above the world. I think the only way forward is over her dead body.

And Jormungand guarantees no fast response, nuclear or otherwise. She's also not rampaging to kill people on a daily basis, don't know where you're getting this.

Her opening shot's several lifetimes' worth of rampage. The ensuing chaos will be worse. And, to make the chances she wants, she'll be threatening the world with more. She said as much - the planes is just a beginning. Part of her plan, which makes it, somehow, even worse than if she'd done for shit and giggles, as a one day prank.

This part I agree with. Each country will want to get sovereign control back. But if she plays right, whether or not they can do so is another matter. Jormungand going mobile and hidden will ensure they're stuck with closed wired networks or short range radio (anything long range and wireless will probably get intercepted). Early 21st century tech is a huge barrier to raging long-distance conflicts. Body counts would definitely get reduced... which is her goal.

And the world will have nothing better to do than learning to cope, and hunt her down.

BTW, it's not like even a quantum computer can't break the One Time Pad, or gain access to a physically closed network, so it's not like they'll be completely disarmed.