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Moon Eclipse
I think he was referring to the chibi presentation...
And as far as genes and abilities are concerned...
Moon Eclipse already stated several good points as to how genes and abilities go together hand in hand. It's not always the nurture aspect, it's not always the genes aspect, but, in order to be able to excel at something, you must have both the genes and the nurture aspect in order to do just that. Because without the superior genes to be especially good in quantum physics, even though you take 1,000 years to study the same book again and again and you are being taught by a very good teacher at that, chances are, you're not going to excel at it. And while at this, if you're actually allergic to the idea of numbers (that is, you abhor math), couple this with your non-gene disposition of not being ably gifted with this love or whatever, you wouldn't learn anything at all.
It's because of this fact that we have families of doctors, lawyers, artists, politicians and what have you, because of their genes, and at the same time of the nurture aspect (being around people with the same intellect or whatever to nurture this genetic side of things). But there are also a few exceptions to this rule.
RIGHT GENES, RIGHT NURTURE, WANT DIFFERENT PATH
There are a few cases wherein some actually want to break out of the mold created by their families by becoming an entirely different person (let's say, an artist breaking away from a family of lawyers). He may have the same genetic disposition of becoming a really good lawyer, but because he feels that he is more suited to the arts, or doesn't actually love law at first sight, he goes on a different path. Which could be really hard because of the family pressure or whatever, sometimes to the extreme extent of having him excommunicated from the rest of the family, cut off from the will...and lots of other drama anthology series stuff thrown in besides. He may as well be viewed by the rest of the family as the infamous "black sheep" and wouldn't want to do anything with him after the path shift. But there are still some who would support him all the way in case he falters in his decision in doing the right thing and so get back on track.
RIGHT GENES, NOT ACTUALLY RIGHT NURTURE, WANT DIFFERENT PATH
The only exceptional cases would be the really brilliant people coming from backgrounds not entirely suited for the job they want to have (example, a doctor coming from a family of farmers in a hacienda). The family will all oppose it, but given his nature that he wanted to be out of the same situation his family is all in and that he is extremely capable fo being a doctor (gifted genes could spring up in the most unlikely places too, mind you), he would do everything in his power to achieve that dream, whatever it takes. That is, he must have a really strong resolve, have a good support system (friends, mentors, even some family members who think that he deserves a chance to be a doctor) and knows that there will be a lot of hardships before actually realizing that dream (meaning he might get a part time job in order to pay the tuition fees or what have you, or maintaining that average in order to be still on the scholarship).
JUST RIGHT GENES, RIGHT NURTURE, WRONG PATH
Somebody more suited for the arts is not somebody suited for the sciences, somebody suited for teaching is not somebody suited for becoming a world class jet fighter pilot...the case of parents still choosing college courses suited for their own children (which could likely lead to the first scenario above) or worse, lead children to the impending doom of not being able to do what they really wanted when they were younger. The right nurture in this case would be the parents giving all their best for their children suited to the career they want for them, and the children going on along with it in order to please their parents (and the just right genes would be the ability in getting the necessary GPAs for that right, high paying job without any heart in it at all; just so that they could please their parents). They would struggle all throughout their college years to do just that, when their hearts are set elsewhere. Then they would end up in a job that is actually work for them (doing the same things everyday and getting bored by it or becoming indifferent about it so much so that it could affect their own families later on).
WRONG GENES, WRONG NURTURE, WRONG PATH
Take a scenario like something above only having them come from a totally different background that has no relation with the job he wanted whatsoever then he embarks on a path that was so entirely wrong for him...
WRONG GENES, RIGHT NURTURE, RIGHT PATH
This is something only the select few were able to achieve (because some of the rest are just too
trying to find it). They may be suited for other skills but then they go on this hobby or took a class on a subject that they actually hated at first, but then they liked it, then eventually loved it, then go down a path they never even dreamed of doing for the rest of their lives...and actually enjoying it.
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Demongod
It's either just me or have you also forgotten that the Coordinator thing gives the would be parents the right to choose what eye/hair color,
+ the immunity against all diseases, + enhanced mental/physical aspects to give to their children...? Given the right nurture aspect + genetics, it's also not the genetics = one all, end all thing/screw nurturing you are saying...
And that clip show only shows that Dullindal was more capable of doing the job because he has the supporting genes to make him so, unlike Djibril who might only be there because he paid that company lots of money to be put there and he has no supporting genes to back him up with.
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Anh_Minh
Extendeds are just the EAF's perfect soldiers for perfect/total world domination, nothing more, nothing less. They don't feel any emotions, and because of this fact, they were more efficient than having regular soldiers (post traumatic battle syndromes or whatever) and when they do go on a killing spree, they REALLY go on a killing spree (unlike soldiers who still maintain the morality aspect of their actions). Dullindal isn't stupid, that is why he unveiled the Destiny Plan so that everything would be determined rightly, and do away with the systems that put each and every one of them in such a state, and not somebody they ought to be (as what Moon was also trying to point out, too). It has nothing to do with genetics; it's more of the survival of the fittest (given the Lodonia facility was picking up random children whatsoever for their Extended projects and aren't dictated from what class, social standing, race or whatever).
Dullindal is also as guilty as Lacus when he's not saying outrightly that he is right. But then again, he actually acknowledges that he has certain faults, which is something Lacus does not do (her "lackeys" saying "no Lacus-sama, you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT~~~!!! How could you even say you are WRONG?!?!?!?!
" kind of voids this "acknowledgment" of hers...
).
And what accomplishments/abilities...? Um, are you referring to her chaos and confusion into the battlefield miracle???
If that is the case, then
what an accomplishmentand an ability. (extreme sarcasm) She wasn't even able to alleviate whatever hostilities she had left over from the first war, in fact in even became much worse, and her godly faction's "resolution" of the second war only made it even more worse. Her Lacus dust dictates everything that
SHOULD be, and she would be
if it happened otherwise, if that "evil" in question were to challenge her divinity. So she sends off her demigods to Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice those who come her way, pronto (and from the looks of things...Destiny them, as
well...
). Now, since all the poor people of the CE don't know any better, they hire her back again to make the world into another GSD, 2nd to nth season.
Now there's no reason why we should be
at Gundam SEED Eternity.
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wingdarkness
I couldn't agree more. Damn good post.