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Originally Posted by Lumir
Except if this berserker grabs your noble phantasm it becomes his. At that point its over (with exception to those with multiple ones), imagine him stealing heracles noble phantasm? Dunno how he'd do it but could be a possiblity.
And btw heracles was strong, bet very very slow, our archer class in FSN did circles around him and took a few lives =). And lets not forget that the stronger the noble phantasm the more lives it can take in 1 hit =).
IMO F/Z berserker > F/SN berserker I could see him grabbin that huge cleaver and making that his own too haha.
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CGzerker can only grab Noble Phantasms not being wielded like the ones Gilgamesh carelessly tosses. That's why Rider's chariot noble phantasm doesn't magically become Berserker's when he got stomped.
Also, Heracles was actually in-game as fast as Saber was (and faster when Mad Enhanced activated instead of just sanity removed). The anime was a rather poor representation. Remember, Heracles has the stats to be any class except Caster. This means he could even be a Lancer which is, by definition, the fastest class.
Besides, that rock sword isn't a noble phantasm. Heracles just swings it ultra hard.