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Originally Posted by Valentine
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Can Battler abuse the red text to discover the answer to anything Beatrice refuses to repeat in red now that he can use it as well?
For instance, in the second twilight of episode 2, Battler tried to have Beatrice say in red that one of the master keys had been the last key to be used to lock Jessica's room, but she refused. As Battler said at the time, that didn't really mean anything. She could have been unable to say it or she could have just not wanted to say it. Can Battler try to say it himself just to find out the answer?
"Jessica's room was last locked by... ugh. Ok, not that one". "Jessica's room was last locked by Jessica's key."
Since Battler actually met Beatrice in this episode, despite it being said in red that there were no more than 17 people on the island, I'm assuming that Beatrice's constant jibes at Shannon and Kanon that furniture aren't people means she isn't counting furniture in that number. I'm wondering though if there's yet another layer to it. I wonder if human Beatrice could be furniture as well. It'd get past the problem of Beatrice being on the island when there are no people left besides Battler, and if Battler actually figured out that Beatrice isn't counting furniture as people, it'd give Beatrice the option at some later point of saying in red "There are 14 people on the island. Krauss, Natsuhi, Eva, Hideyoshi, Rudolph, Kyrie, Rosa, Jessica, George, Battler, Maria, Nanjo, Kumasawa and Gohda are the only people on the island."
At one point in the third episode, Ronove makes a comment about how sometimes furniture become scary witches. The viciousness Beatrice sometimes puts into telling Shannon and Kanon that they're not human kind of makes sense as well if it's something she'd been repeatedly told was true of herself.
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There is also Eva-beato red truth:
-Absolutely no factors other than humans participate in this game board!
Since we are sure that Genji, Kanon and Shannon do participate in episode3's game, then they must be human.
A few weeks ago I was also wondering if dead people count as people. Actually that's an interesting question. Considering that someone is speculating that Kinzo's body is still on the island preserved somehow, you'd need to think that dead bodies do not count as people. That could be the reason to explain why Beatrice can't state a precise number but only "less people than X". However Beatrice always uses the present, so when she said "less than 17 people in every game"... But when a game actually starts? If it's after the first twilight then that doesn't mean much.
As for Battler using red. We don't clearly know how Ryukishi will manage this thing. It is obvious that if Battler could use red in regards of the crimes he'd get an enormous advantage on this game. Basically he could play it alone and that would kinda suck.
I hope EP5 will come with an explanation that will prevent Battler from doing so.