I just wanted to clarify my perspective... I partially agree E.S, as well as you and others here about Noitamina, and other shows... I think that pursuing mainstream appeal is the wrong way to go. If the mainstream can appreciate the innovative elements in Noitamina shows won't be achieved by a jaded housewife that leaves her TV on while the whole family is eating dinner, frankly the opposite, the mainstream must be able to appreciate, if not identify and pursue such elements independent of the context they appear in