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Old 2012-09-10, 05:04   Link #1739
LoveMeKags
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Age: 32
I'll answer a few quick things.

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- Episodes 12-14: Ranka gets abducted by Vajra, yells a lot "Save me Alto-kun!", has an important encounter with a Vajra queen where she learns that the Vajra queen can communicate with her and show human illusions... and forgets to tell anyone else about that. The only explanation I have ever found which does not assume overwhelming stupidity on Rankas part is her disassociative amnesia. It was never really spelled out on the show, however.
I'll start off on this by saying she is not truly given a chance after the encounter to speak, for it is Brera who rescues her. This is a new person to her, one she's only met twice, a stranger whom hasn't spoken to her, and one that likely won't understand. After the encounter, all the immediate changes leave her baffled enough. She forgets all about it with everything else going on. Attach real life to your TV in this case and you'd understand that factor. But given that the only time she got to see Alto after the encounter was with Sheryl in the hospital, who is still ill to her understanding, and it likely wouldn't be good for her health to speak of such matters with them, as Sheryl might collapse from her illness (being as Ranka doesn't know what it is). But once again, she is distracted by things around her, as Sheryl starts to sing her song, they join in a duet, and finally, the government comes to claim her. After that, when is she given a chance without being distracted to actually tell someone? Never.

If she had, imagine what would've happened to her. She's gonna tell the whole fleet that she's somehow attached to the enemy trying to kill them all. I can just picture it now: prison or execution, and the second only being the extreme consequences. The government would then use her as a puppet (which Alto already disagreed to countless times) for their own measures. She would've been traumatized once again, forgotten the present (dissociative amnesia is caused by trauma), and caused worse problems for Frontier. Please don't go putting your foot in your mouth by saying "she should tell someone" because she honestly couldn't. The only person she trusted at that point that she saw enough to even do so was Alto, and the timing was never right until the respective episode in which she left. Remember for an instant here that her time with Ozma decreased to almost nothing and then he had to go into hiding, thus leaving her behind to deal with everything on her own.

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- Episode 16: Ranka lets herself get bulldozed over by Graces management, changing up her songs. She agrees to use her music to protect Frontier against the Vajra.
This all started back in episode 13 with her desire to help those she loves in any way. What is on Frontier? People she loves. She wants to do whatever she can to help even if she is misled into those options. However, I will state that in real life, a change in command is not something you should question in the music business, it is likely the label company selling you off (for budget reasons) or changing their genre of music (in which case if you only do one type). For Ranka, she won't question it because it was likely to her that Elmo sold her off. We are given no proof that Ranka and Elmo spoke beforehand. So that is my argument. As for her songs: label companies usually give an OK to a song before it is released. There are countless songs that are amazing but are never released because the label company doesn't allow them. In this case, Grace is just doing what all producers do, and that's changing the song for the purpose it is intended for. If Ranka had a problem with that, she would've lost her job, possibly.

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- Episode 17: Ranka manages to completely torpedoe her chances at a relationship with Alto by behaving like a pre-teen kid. Alto obliges by totally treating her as such. She is shown as being insecure about her commitment to using her music against the Vajra.
I don't see this. Speaking as a girl, inviting a boy to your bedroom, your private sanctuary, for the first time is always unnerving. For one, look at her room. His impression of her might change, even if only a little. She was very mature about it, allowing him to come in, and not changing her attitude one bit that she wanted to spend time with him. But her reactions are out of complete embarrassment that he has to see her room as such: a child's. Given that it is her personal sanctuary, she is entitled to her own design. If she wants stuffed animals, so be it. That doesn't mean she'll have them whilst being married. Also, it doesn't mean she won't be embarrassed for showing her romantic interest these things.

However, she is allowed to be insecure about her commitment, given the fact she knows very little about her connection to the Vajra at this point or what her songs can truly do, or even what the government's plans are; she is allowed to be concerned about whether it's the right or wrong thing to do. We've had this discussion before about little information causing character flaws. Ranka is like Alto in this case: only hearing one half of the story and not knowing the truth. For all she knows, he could be there to monitor her like all the others, although both would hate that. The point is that being insecure about things you can't control or don't understand, even know, is human.

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- Episode 19: Ranka decides that, no, she actually doesn't really want to sing for her home, but only for Alto. Misinterprets Altos flying team making a heart as a personal love declaration from Alto.
Let me stop you for five seconds. She never said that nor implied it. She said her songs are for him. Her lyrics and voice, the person she is trying to reach out to, is Alto. That was their sole purpose from the beginning to her. It doesn't mean she doesn't want to protect her home or sing for it, but her songs and lyrics are always for another. It is quite obvious to see that she loves her home. Think of it this way: Sheryl doesn't sing for Galaxy or Frontier, her songs and lyrics are for Alto, and she decides in the end to use those songs written for Alto to protect Frontier. It is a mirror of Ranka in this respect.

Ironically, she couldn't have been the only one shocked about the heart. Alto was the one person who knew of the performance (shouting to Michael and Luca when another performance was needed) and personally shot through the heart himself. Seriously, what kind of non-romantic decides to perform something like that for a girl he doesn't have feelings for? If it wasn't a design from his boss, then it was his personal creation, and therefore it not only leaves Ranka in shock but the audience too.

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- Episode 20: Ranka flips her shit about Sheryl and Alto having a moment and nearly destroys Frontier by exciting the swarms of Vajra larvaes which had hidden themselves in the sublevels. Can't control her negative emotions to calm the Vajra, can't work up any show of friendship when her best friend gets severely hurt right before her eyes, gets Michael ( and thousands of other people ) killed.
You're in the wrong here. I'll explain why. Remember that you are not the actual character. For this exact episode, there was no initial proof that she was connected to the Vajra in such a way that her emotions affected them. That was never studied by anyone aboard Frontier. They said her songs were effective. Quite honestly, how would she have known that negative emotions would also cause them to appear? After they appear, it is just a vent of overwhelming emotions, given that her love has chosen another, her purpose for singing is being lost, her attachment to the Vajra, all the sudden changes, and a variety of other things that I won't state, but mostly that her heart is broken. Her songs are for Alto but he doesn't understand them. How shattering do you think it would be for you to realize that everything you ever did for another was all for naught? I think that would crush you too.

Ranka is not to blame for Michael's death. What could she have possibly done at that point to help? Her songs were already proven ineffective given her state of emotion so it was bound to make the situation worse. You lose that argument.

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- Episode 21: She finally manages to get herself enough under control the bring the Vajra towards her and get Frontier saved. Then ditches her responsibility for protecting Frontier and flees the fleet, after entreating Alto to throw his live away on a mission which, to the best of his knowledge, would be a complete suicide mission. Because, hey, Ranka just demonstrated in the last episodes that she can not always make the Vajra love her. Nope, she runs off with Altos biggest rival and leaves the fleet in a ditch.
I would go over all the ways you are wrong in this but I doubt you'll listen.

One thing to note is the arrival of Ai-kun turned the atmosphere for the worse in that visit and conveying her original message would've failed. Having realized this, she left without stating her information. She is not to blame for Alto's misinterpretation of her feelings or motives, given that he should by now know her better, not like a stranger. Whatever he misinterpreted, it just adds to the war that he had feelings for her and watching her leave with another man off to some strange planet with questionable motives kills him inside. He should believe in her by now, given that they are friends. His lack of belief in her is handed right to whose side she's at: Brera Sterne.

I am to laugh at the fact you admit Brera was Alto's rival, given that everyone loves to say that neither fights over Ranka. You contradict that.

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- Episode 22: Feels Sheryl and Alto making love. ^^
Not true in any way. She is feeling lonely and lost, trying to understand her thoughts and motives. After all, she made a big decision and now has to live with it. Your sarcasm towards the scene is ridiculous. By that point, she has already suffered heartbreak. Don't you think her reaction would've been different had she actually felt that?

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- Episode 24: Ranka gets super-easily turned toward evil purposes by Grace screwing with her mind and begins using her powers against her home.
I chop most of her control-ridden self up to the fact she's just finally remembered her real past and all the bad things that have happened out of her control. She was just a child but is allowed to blame herself for things that took place that long ago. But the pile of those crimes is a heavy burden. She is thus overwhelmed due to her mental insecurity and Grace easily takes over her mind under the pressure.

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- Episode 25: Things perfectly fall into place for Ranka to allow her to return home and not be hung from the highest tree as a traitor. She also saves Sheryl's life, redeeming herself somewhat. She then petulantly refuses to be graceful and not pursue Alto anymore, wasting that redemption. Le sigh.
I'll state that Ranka is unaware of anything that happened on Frontier while she was gone. The only encounter she had with the other two in the triangle was in the fold space, and thing seemed typical. I'll disagree to high hell that Alto chose Sheryl, but given the situation, neither girl knew the truth, and so neither is at fault for saying "I'll fight for him" when no words of love have been spoken to either girl in this respect.

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2.) Putting some distance between herself and Alto. She very obviously believed that Alto had chosen Sheryl, which resulted in her emotional breakdown. Which was Rankas own damned fault for a.) misinterpreting the relatively benign "embrace" on that rooftop and b.) suddenly focusing all of her own motivations on wanting a romance with Alto.
This is not entirely true. In respect to her character, she still needed time to figure out how she truly felt about Alto. After all, being a person who's never fallen in love with another besides a family member, the whole matter probably confused her. It had been doing that since episode 10 and continued to plague her throughout episode 12 and 13, until it finally hit her in episode 19. Just look at your character trying to discover her love for Alto; she was just as lost. Neither girl had been in love with a boy before, and both were thrown for a loop with it or how to convey it.

However, given the situation, it is not wrong for her to so-called "misinterpret" the embrace between Alto and Sheryl. After all, she walked in on what appears to be a romantic moment between them. It is actually Alto's fault, and slightly Sheryl's, for not stating his intentions or the reason behind the embrace. But he is clearly guilty when she runs away. And part of this is all Sheryl's fault, as she makes absolutely no move to help matters or explain the situation, just stares dumbfounded. How do you explain that?

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And, unless someone can present me actual evidence from the show to the contrary, Ranka totally left Frontier in a ditch.
Episode 23 likely is the best proof of why she left Frontier, to discover her powers and connection to the Vajra and understand them. However, she did not expect those memories to be so horrid, a characteristic I find to be very human.

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Originally Posted by magnuskn View Post
I just can't spend several hours rebutting stuff line by line, which is what normally happens with LMK posts, where she just deluges you with gigantic paragraphs.
For the sake of not being banned, I won't curse you out; but I want to. That is a personal attack that was not needed, and I don't mislead. I state my opinion. How is that any different from you? So please shut your mouth. That is uncalled for.

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Once again, don't feel like shortening it. Must go to class.
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