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Originally Posted by andy
And how did ace get there because of his logia power.
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If that was the case one hit Blackbeard should have ended Ace......Super Sonic would have never stated what he stated if what you say is true.
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If they were so many ways to beat a logia user in a fight why did BB want his DF. Before this haki stuff came up when came to fights most people had logia user vs other logia user who were they weak point. Also how did the first half grand line reject luffy he would made to the new world rather easy if his friend was not in trouble.
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Last time I checked the SH crew was defeated back on bubble land........
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Do you really think some one with sea stone is going to be able to get near a logia user so easy.
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Stop trying to change the subject.
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Originally Posted by james0246
^Uhm, no one, or at least not I, said that Ace only got as far as he did because of his Logia.
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Then there is nothing to talk about.