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Originally Posted by Znozzy
Why would they risk open war with a neutral country over one ship and one mobile suit? seriously, just drop it, Athrun isnt stupid either, Neither is Zaft, they wouldnt go to war with Orb just because it took the AA in.
Also, Irrelevant, since they never went to war with orb, it's once again you speculating without any fact to back it up except your own imagination
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It wasn't just one ship and one MS. Both were top of the line (back then), were still allied with the EA, and for a supposedly neutral country taking them in speaks volumes that they aren't that neutral as they claim they are.
and given how that one ship and that one MS managed to escape them too many times and leaving a large number of ZAFT victims in their wake, it's not that easy saying they should be left alone when they went to Orb to hide.
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Let's see now, in Seed, the EA got whipped, lost their mass driver(s) and invaded orb because of the following:
1. They had facilities
2. They had a Mass driver
That's why, since the EA needed a mass driver to get to space, that was the effort it was worth, thats why we don't see anything from Orb after the Mass driver is blown up, the maincrew moved to space with Azrael's forces on the ground. (for now)
Where did they ever say " SHIET, ORB IS SO POWERFUL THEY COULD POSSIBLY DETER OUR ARMADA " they never did, and Orb surely did fall, two days after the battle ensued with lots of losses aswell, Orb took its armed forces and ran off to space, with the only warship they had, pretty desperate for a country that could deter them, no?
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Uzumi did blow up Orb, which practically made Orb useless to the advancing EA armies.
As for your stand that Orb cannot stand on its own, for a reason both in SEED and Destiny not a single country is shown to be taking over it. And we have these countries not willing to do anything to it if it came to that. It's the only nation in the earth sphere which had owned a colony, a high technology MS manufacturer in its territory, and managed to create a golden MS with a very advanced anti beam properties armor (not really sure if the PLANTs have also discovered about this breakthrough), not to mention have created 4 Astrays. Now, I would like to hear your position as to why Orb STILL cannot stand on its own 2 feet, given these very, very blatant facts.
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But they are, thats what happened in the show. Cagalli clearly wasnt in power, if anything she was a official puppet of the Seirans, they ran the military, they ran the politics, they ran Orb when she came back from her Minerva trip.
You not accepting the fact that the Seirans ran orb is your own problem, but its what happened in the show. We arent told when or how the Seirans claimed the power, it just happened, and thats what we have to accept.
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IIRC, the Seirans weren't really remotely doing ANYTHING speaking of their political clout at all until they sided with the EA. If they were clearly in power, we wouldn't have Orb suddenly running to aid Cagalli after it was all over. We do have that instance where Yuna blackmailed Cagalli into marrying him, but it still took 2 years (from SEED) to have her in a position of relative vulnerability before they have managed to make her accept what they wanted.