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Then why did Saori take the actions that she did? If the Kirino of Episodes 1 through 10 was cute just the way she is, then why did Saori see a need for intervention, and a need to persuade Kirino to be kinder and more sympathetic towards her brother?
No, Kirino was not cute just the way she was, and Saori rightly recognized that, and took appropriate action based on it.
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No, Saori did not "take action". Kirino approached them with her problem, and Saori suggested and helped organize the party. This was not "Saori's intervention", it was a suggestion to resolve a fight. As Saori made clear in this episode, Kirino took the initiative here and was not coerced.
Besides that, just because I'm arguing that her tsuntsun behaviour is part of her cute side (and that was part of the meaning of the show's title) doesn't mean that every single thing she ever did or does is justified and without fault. She took things too far, and so had to apologize, but what does that have to do with anything? She also took things too far when she head-butted him in episode 12, but he understands why she did it.
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One of her more harmless ones, though. This is just to end things on a comedic note that reflects the bulk of the series well. It's not meant to put some definitive exclamation mark on the theme of this show.
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You argued previously that the dream opening to episode 1 was something everyone should consider as a clear sign of what Kyousuke likes about Kirino now. But now, as for the other title call, you're saying that it doesn't really count because it's not a "definitive exclamation mark". How can we choose which title calls are important to the meaning and which ones are just comedic?
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He came to appreciate her because he realized her true feelings for him... which he would never have realized if her behavior had not changed. Her changing her behavior was important and necessary for this ending to even occur, RelentlessFlame.
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Was she being demure when she said her leaving was none of his business? Was she being demure when she said she said she didn't like him? Was she being demure when she head-butted him and caused him to bleed profusely? Is this the "changed" Kirino? And when she was listing off all sorts of reasons why she skipped out on her trip -- that weren't related to him. And when she told him -- without asking -- that "Life Counselling Isn't Over". How much of a change are you really trying to argue occurred here?
The apology was very important for Kyousuke to understand Kirino's behavoiur, but Kirino is not a "changed little sister" now. The same Kirino who dragged Kyousuke around town to have him buy her a Christmas present, and who made him go out to buy eroge for her at midnight is now telling him that his days of being of use to her are not over. And he's okay with this because, now, he
gets her.
Basically the thrust of the disagreement is this: your argument is that he likes Kirino now because he sees her "dere" side, and my argument is that he likes Kirino now because he understands she's a "tsundere". Yes, he needed to see the "dere" side to understand the she's not all "tsun", but
both sides of a tsundere are cute once you understand they're both there.
And I finished writing this before I noticed your new post but oh well.