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Originally Posted by hyl

For the Western people, Willplus is known for making Yume Miru Kusuri.
Willplus is probably these days more known for their collaborations and their popular subsidiaries such as Pulltop, Ensemble or Propeller, rather than making noteworthy eroges themselves.
But that can also be said for Akabei Soft.

I've never heard of them so I searched them up in vndb. Apparently they only done 3 VNs....which I don't think is a prove that they have pretty good reputation among VN readers.

Since I don't know much about the Western market(I'm not even a Westerner myself), I probably don't know how their market works but from what I see in the Japanese market, you have more eroge produced and those that are converted to all age version are usually done appropriately(like what you've shown me) and not just censoring every freaking H scenes. Either they are freaking lazy or they just couldn't be bothered producing a proper all age version of Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa wo Hirogete which is rather disappointing. They have some good VNs but the way they handle Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa wo Hirogete is just terrible. Not what a reputable company would do.

Originally Posted by hyl

While i haven't read the English translated version of HoshiMemo or EF myself, i know that those 2 were fan translated.
Things will get lost in translation , but i think the most important thing is that the translator wants the reader to get the general idea/impression what the original game was trying to say. This way the reader (who probably can't read japanese ) can still the enjoy the story.

I didn't read the translated version of HoshiMemo too but it's enough to see the rage. I don't want to waste my time reading the translated version when I know it's gonna be bad already.

Originally Posted by hyl

The majority of nukiges still have poor stories though. But there are a few ones that have a decent story, so you can't exactly say "all nukiges have bad stories"
I also recalled Euphoria for having a good plot, hidden under all the torture porn.

I just don't like nukige cos they aren't story-centric. The focus on nukige are the H scenes, more H scenes and even more H scenes..which is essentially just porn -.-

I want to read VNs that have good stories. If people like those H scenes so much they might as well go watch hentai. -____-"

Originally Posted by Mahou

I only played the fan-traslated version of Ef, but I found nothing wrong with it. The drama was still - for me - powerful and emotionally done correctly, for example.

Spoiler for Off-topic:

And as someone, who studies translation "arts" (though only german, english, french), I'd like to repeat that there's nothing like *the* translation or a perfect approach. Just as there's bound to be some losses in-translation depending on text genre and such, even between western languages. And while this is surely sounding biased/like bashing, those who can understand jp. to play games/read VNs *will* often not be happy with localizations - be it objectively or not (see the QQ on some game forums when Mana Khemia's name changes had been announced or some character-behavior changes. Or how about Ar Toenlico and its own hymnos language).

Before I venture even more into off-topic, I better not start about a few elitist (the bad ones) attitudes on vndb, which I saw on occation when skimming through the database

/back to replaying Rina's route in Fureraba

There WAS an improvement made. Before it was so terrible I want to cringe(talk about Flyable Heart being machine translated. The quality is just OMG -.-).

Even with the improvement they are still far from the standards of those who done the translation for Narcissu.