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Originally Posted by Tk3997

Except when they aren't using it... which seems to be rather often. It also seems to be some kind of gas type thing thus it's somewhat questionable if it would do anything to a jet screaming by at say 30,000 feet. It's even More questionable when the jet is just lobbing missiles from 30+ miles away. This might not even matter though as it also assumes that in 60 odd years no one invents a single viable countermeasure to the stuff.

What also needs to be taken into account is how potent the stuff is. The Neuroi use it to devour entire cities, but we don't know how long it takes. It obviously works fast enough to note a Witches immunity to it, also despite how little I may know of aircraft, I don't think any pilot would like to have any form of metal eating substance clogging their air intakes.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

More information is needed, but given that normal unprotected infantry can in some circumstances fight Neuroi it seems probable jets could do so as well.

I'm not saying it will be instant death for any craft who flies in, however in the long term normal aircraft will suffer substantially more damage substantially faster when fighting in Neuroi territory.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Yeah that's great too but my point was made in relation to characters moving away from the WWII setting. I don't find the idea of Strikers having bulked out in modern times at all odd or somehow against the setting.

Ah, missed that part. Well, I myself see adjustments coming from a different angle. For one, I expect jet Strikers to become commonplace, HUD's would probably come in the form of glasses or visors (single eye visors a-la mass effect would look awesome methinks) missiles... are somewhat more of an enigma. They'd be downsized, probably, like Sanya's missiles, that despite being smaller still have quite an impressive blastradius. Its also possible they'll be holding the now downsized missiles similarly to how they are attached to a fighter. Of course this means that witches will be able to carry less missiles into battle then a normal fighter, but that only stays closer to the current setting, where ammunition is already an issue.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Yeah okay there are armored vehicles clanking into the city, guys are running around with rocket launchers on there shoulders (you can't hide a fucking RPG under your coat) and gunfire can be heard all around, but apparently no one is fleeing the area and are in fact crowding around the armored vehicles/fire magnets.

This would just never happen people flee at the THREAT of battle when the tanks are actually rolling in everyone is long gone or running. (Tanks rolling down the streets tend to be mean Bad Things™ are about to go down.) Further more that's actually a clue when you roll up somewhere and everyone is gone expect an ambush. People aren't stupid and they don't fail to notice stuff going on in there own neighborhood.

I was more talking about guerrilla strikes, not open warfare. When one side is in theoretical control of the city, tanks and other vehicles are stationed in the city, that sort of scenario. In such a scenario all it takes is someone to step outside in a crowded area, fire before the crowd realizes what he's holding, and use the ensuing chaos to escape. If the crowd is formed out of a mob that already wants to see the tank blown to pieces, the firer can take more time aiming too. Pump up the civilians until they start raging against the 'oppressors and murderers' and you'll eventually have a raging mob that will be brave enough to start yelling and throwing stuff at the military. In such a mob, one or two guys with RPG's are damn near invisible until they start aiming and shooting. After they shoot the mob is likely to panic and get the hell out. These tactics are in fact employed in Iraq as we speak (though the step-and-fire one more often so, as the insurgents aren't able to rile up the population to that degree so easily), so I'm surprised to see a military buff like yourself label them off as ridiculous.