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Originally Posted by KLGChaos
Yes, but you're talking about extreme cases here. We're talking about a manga break-up and telling people they've got bad morals because they don't agree with the way Eba did things. There's a huge difference between murdering millions of innocent people (which pretty much the whole world believes is wrong) or exploiting children and having an opinion on how someone gets dumped. Obviously, people will disagree about something like that, but I was just pointing out that the reason why people get angry at him is because he takes the holier-than-thou high road and disregards their opinions as immoral. I can understand if he wants them to make points about why they believe a certain way, but asking for that and then telling them they're wrong just makes a person look like a jerk.
Obviously, you have to use some judgment on certain cases-- as I said, I'm American, I'm completely against child pornography and I've made it quite vocal (just look at the Kodomo no Jikan thread where I trashed the manga as it moved towards the teacher/11 year old student romance instead of the more familial route I was looking for). However, others feel that it's fine because it's make believe and not real life and they would never consider a situation like that in real life ok. I may not like it, but I'm also of the same stance on video games-- that violent games don't make people violent.
You yourself said "some objective morals". I believe things like murder, rape, slavery, etc are all common moral grounds that span cultures (most, anyway). Breaking up with your boyfriend isn't (it's a really minor thing in the long run) and someone who thinks Eba did something wrong is entitled to that opinion, just as much as those who believed she did the right thing. There's not a universally accepted moral stance like there is when if comes to the before-mentioned atrocities. I personally felt she made a stupid choice (of course, I think Haruto's choices were just as stupid, so I don't think she gets all the blame like some believe). I don't see pity dating a dying guy and cutting all contact with your boyfriend after leaving a note in a bag as a good thing.
It's the same thing with Haruto's friends. Some believe they did the right thing, others believe they were morons and some are in between. It doesn't make any of them morally better than the other.
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Simply put, Mentar has a right to his opinion and if he finds fault with others opinions/reasoning, I see no reason for him not to voice it and give his own as long as he's staying within the bounds of common decency. He doesn't seem to talk in an extremely friendly way about this issue but he doesn't have to. This forum is meant to debate as much as anything else.
We probably will never find an objective answer or a consensus on issues like this but that doesn't mean the debate isn't worth having. We can definitely get people thinking about certain situations and consider/reconsider their own beliefs.