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Originally Posted by Reckoner
The thing is. How do we distinguish between what is pandering to the audience and pandering to the otakus?
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To me, there's a difference between trying to be entertaining in a general sense, and pandering to a specific audience with stuff like in-jokes and common tropes.
For example, the "Survival Strategy!" sequence in
Mawaru Penguindrum isn't pandering to anybody in particular (yes, it references
Sailor Moon briefly, but you don't have to get that to enjoy the sequence): It's just trying to look awesome and cool (and succeeding, imo).
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One may argue that the audience and otaku are the same thing, but I don't think this is also the case, especially when it comes to notamina historically.
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Agreed.