[TehChron]

Originally Posted by Mirrored

Explanations:

1) The island was rigged with explosives, in the event that Americans attempted to capture or occupy the base, they would Kamikaze. Kinzo just changed where the Det-Cord went.

If you look at Iwojima, this is not too unrealistic.

Timeline issue. At the time of gold arriving and Kinzo's story, those explosives were not rigged there, as the base was still somewhat under construction and still completely undermanned and understocked. They had yet to see a single submarine, right?

2) The explosives are all in a centralized location on the island, presumably stored for later use. That location is the epicenter of the explosion, which is strong enough to make the 2km wide crater. Thus no moving was really involved, just grab det-cord, string it to all the packages, and you're gtg.

The gold was placed in the cave, one of only three possible dock points into the island proper, and the only one actually outfitted by the Japanese military.

The place was allegedly stockpiled with explosives as part of a counter attack strategy. That was foreshadowed.

Moving 20 tons of gold bars is not impossible, given a crane/forklift, etc.

However, it's more likely that the Japanese Military never inspected the area.

To accomplish this would be really difficult. But probably doable. Just bribe everyone who knows about it and try to get it wiped from records.

Kinzo had access to none of these during the war. And if the Japanese military never inspected it, why go through the trouble of investing 900 tons worth of explosives?

Not to mention the fact that bribes are not a cure all for anything.

It actually doesn't matter too much.

We know the gold is there, how Kinzo hid it is a mystery. But it is there and he did successfully hide it. We could spend hours going over this, and while it would still be more productive than conversations about Jesus symbolism, it would still be nearly useless.

Just because the Japanese government didn't find it does not mean that Kinzo was able to hide it.

At all. A forklift? Don't be ridiculous, do you really think arranging for a forklift to be bought and then sailed out to a deserted island wouldnt draw attention? Even if we allow for Kinzo being somehow able to do so while still enlisted?

I don't think they are going to get into a technical breakdown of how he did it, but its doable.

It's not.

Summary:

1) Explosives were there before Kinzo.
2a) They were either part of a self-destruct plan to take out occupying americans. or
2b) stored in a central location for later use.

1) is ridiculous. You don't just plant 900 tons of explosives and then not use the damn place. If you want to make a trap, it has to be one that's guaranteed to be successful, and that requires good bait.

A half-assed cave for parking submarines isn't nearly enough to justify that kind of investment on the part of the japanese army.

3) Kinzo ends up killing off everyone on the island.
4) Kinzo bribes, deceives, and otherwise gets compliance from many people to keep the base on lock.

That is so naive I dont even know where to begin.

5) When he later buys the island, he then sets things up and has all the resources in the world to do it.

No, he doesn't. The wealth of the Ushiromiya family was mostly controlled by the Elders of the family in the first place. So he doesnt have the means to hide the gold on his own. Nor does he have the money to even set up such a complex project and then guarantee the silence of all involved parties.

So...yeah. No.

And Ssol, I really liked reading that. It's a great way to look at Author theory.