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Spoiler for space saver:

Originally Posted by Cinocard

We literally don't have a choice to use a car or not.

However, everyone has a choice: to smoke and to not smoke. At the beginning, smoking does absolutely no good, just harm. So why start smoking? Fat people eat fat food because it tastes good, even for the first time they eat it, or may be their parents brought them up the wrong way. But nicotine never tastes good for the first time.

And smokers annoy non-smokers.

Of course, there are a whole lot reasons behind a smoker. But accept it, most of those reasons are stupid (peer pressure, self-image building, temporarily stress avoidance, and what not). Most of them are considered one's mistake at one point of life. If I were a smoker, and someone force me to choose between continuing to smoke, and to stop it, I would have the first choice. But to choose between Starting to smoke, and to not doing it, is a whole different thing.Banning cigarette would prevent the next generation from making the same mistake.

First of all, you absolutely do have a choice whether you buy a car or not. I currently do not own a vehicle, and walking/biking to my destinations proves just as effective as a car, despite it being slower.

Also, I'm glad that smokers annoy you, but they do not annoy me. However, I am disgusted (a form of annoyance) by people who find it necessary to blame society for their morbid obesity, people who chew with their mouths open, and people who ignore the healthy portions of their meals in favor of another dessert. Call me an asshole if you want, but the argument that smokers annoy non-smokers, and so smoking should be banned (which is what you infer, even if you didn't say it directly), is specious, opinionated, and false. People are annoyed by a multitude of things; some by smokers, some not.

Lastly, banning cigarettes would have precisely the opposite effect you suggest. If you don't believe me, I suggest you do some research into marijuana use in the United States. Particularly search for the time of it's first introduction (when it was legal c. 1920), the time of it's classification as a level 1 drug, and the "participation" statistics from those two points in time onward. Illegality breeds interest, especially insofar as minor illegalities are concerned.

Spoiler for space saver:

Originally Posted by Cinocard

Well, not everyone is like Mrs-Hummer-American-housewife. Many ppl do try to avoid buying a car if they can manage without it. But, as we all see, not everyone can.

To be sufficient with just a bike, or with public transportation is good, but...taxis? Are you kidding me? Are they that cheap at your place?



Fact, I don't say a tobacco ban works or not. I say it's good if it works.

Fact, I don't say there's nothing in food that doesn't cause addiction. I say it tastes good even for the first time you eat it. You don't have to force yourself through several time to get used to good food. That way, I say it is more reasonable to try out new food compare to picking up cigarette.

Fact, I said "temporarily stress avoidance." Didn't see that? Reread it.
To me, using alcohol or tobacco to release stress are all just short-sighted thinking all together. In a sense, some "shit head" teenagers under so much peer pressure may even have a more valid reason to start smoking than the so-called "adults." So don't call them shit head so easily.

And I haven't even touched your "habit" argument. Right there, very questionable.

If you don't understand a single thing I wrote, don't talk about it. Oh wait, you did understand the "car" part.

Fact: Every ban on harmful substances is good if it works. They almost never do.
Fact: Not every American housewife owns a Hummer. In fact, the large majority of them probably don't.
Fact: Just because you think you have to "force yourself" through a few smokes to enjoy it, doesn't make it so. Also, I don't even "taste" my smokes any more. And I certainly never despised the taste. It was just something I had to get used to; like NEW FOODS!
Everyone may have many reasons to start smoking; no one deserves to be called a shit-head for their personal decisions. Also, if you don't think the "habit" argument is a valid one, then you must be the most perfect person in the world, with no habits of any kind. Habit is a very valid argument for people's continued smoking. There are even people who struggle to quit smoking, not because they can't get over the nicotine addiction, but because of their "reaching habit."

Spoiler for space saver:

Originally Posted by Cinocard

Oh, okay, but I will never use taxis in my life, except for when I'm at an airport, or, when I need to send a chick home And anyone been to South East Asia? They have this "motorbike taxi" business there, which is very cheap and pretty cool

By the way, Hummer is a GM's brand of cars, often considered "monstrous," and is quite a favorite between American housewives

I don't even understand how this fits into the discussion. You can't survive without your car? Bummer for you I guess. I can't survive without my cigarettes. Bummer for me? Sure is. We all have our vices. Yours happens to be a car, mine happens to be a cigarette.

And I contend that you either live in a very "socially dependant" area, or watch too much television, to get your opinions on American's and their housewives (I'm honestly thinking you watch that show "Real Housewives of *insert city*" to get your information). Note: I define a "socially dependant" area as an area where people struggle to get the very best of everything, because they think it will make them better people, or some such nonsense.