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Old 2013-10-25, 02:05   Link #31462
Dhomochevsky
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Germany
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Originally Posted by kyp275 View Post
Let's be real here, you can positively assure no one about nothing here on German Intelligence activities.

Unless you actually have the kind of very high security clearance to know about those kind of things, but then those people tend to not go on the internet to confirm or deny what is it they do or don't do.
We can positively assure what our intellingence service is legally allowed to do.
Of course they may secretely be doing evil stuff too. Maybe they are the masterminds behind everything bad that happens. We don't know.
We also don't know everything the NSA does, yet (and possibly never will).

We do know however, that if they did things like that, they would be breaking German law (and likely many international treaties too).
If it came out they did it, there would be major consequences.

That is the difference here.
The argument, that everyone may, or may not be doing it, so it's ok is just stupid.
The important thing is the legal framework we lay around it. If then some players break the rules, it is our duty to stop them.
But there seem to be no such checks on the NSA.
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