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Old 2008-08-09, 01:39   Link #739
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Originally Posted by Thewanderer View Post
Woh, calm down No need to get upset from an anime...
What makes you think I am upset

I think it's no need to get this upset over a filler.

I think you need to take your own advice. You have a a sharp wit and can be really likable. You're a little straight-laced ...but that's cool. However you take this filler thing to personally.
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Originally Posted by Thewanderer View Post
He never lost the power of Bankai in the manga. He did lose that power in the anime though, and you can't deny that.
No I can't deny it. It happened in the anime that's a fact. What is also a fact is...it's not true.(That means it's false) So it in fact is a filler...You can't deny that.
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Ichigo isn't a "pureblood Shinigami" because he's still alive. It's not like Shinigamis are just another race or species, they're spirits who have the power to lead pluses to Soul Society
Ichigo is as dead as the rest of them. He just doesn't have to use a gigai. His body doesn't die...because it houses Kon when he's not in it. If not for kon. It would decay...
Urahara severed his chain of fate. Once that happens. You cannot go back to being alive (The only reason Orihime isn't dead. Her chain was not severed)

Ichigo put it best in episode 10, when Keigo asked if he wanted to go see Don Kanonoji
His reply: "No thanks...I am fine just being a zombie".<--that made me laugh.

Ichigo is a "dead man walking."



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Originally Posted by Thewanderer View Post
By your logic, Yuzu and Karin are pureblooded Shinigami too
I didn't say that ...you did


Yes they are pure bloods; on their father's side. One just has more spirit power than the other. You should read the Manga. No question of Karin becoming one...

I said he was a pure blood. . I said the reason he not able to achieve bankai. According to the anime that is because he was not of SS. I said once Isshin was revealed to be a Shinigami. The reasoning behind his not being able to use it because he was not "Originally of SS".... He is a fake Shinigami and he could only use it in SS ....because he was in SS.:upest: Became illogical....Why...


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Originally Posted by Thewanderer View Post
it's not like Shinigamis are just another race or species, they're spirits who have the power to lead pluses to Soul Society
This is where you are confused. "Shinigami" are non corporal beings who are soul balancers. They can be seen by "Human spirits" or Humans with high levels of spirit power.

Shinigami just means "A god of Death aka Death God"

The two worlds are constantly exchange souls. They maintain this balance by escorting souls to SS & Purifying Hollows of the sin they committed as Hollows so they re-enter the life-death-rebirth cycle.

That's a job description. it's not the name of the species

However some humans posses spirit power so they too can become "Shinigami" i.e Rukia .

They are in fact a separate species. In Bleach they are humanoid spirits .they do no consider themselves human. They never say they are human spirits. They say the living or "real" world and theirs exchange souls constantly. Dead means you can't produce life. They possess the power to reproduce. Ichigo is proof of this...

Kubo never said what they were. They are humanoid in appearance and have no problem mating with humans. However Byakuya marveled and Aizen found Ichigo interesting because he'd did things "No Human should have done"
They always use the term "HUMAN" as if they are other than. (human)

Fact is...Ichigo already had his own spirit powers;which were latent. For time he borrowed Rukia's. Then he used his own. You either have spirit power or not. You can't get back something you never had to begin with. He has them because he inherited them naturally.

That's what makes him so unique, He isn't fully human to begin with and now he he's a Human/uknownspirittype/Hollow hybrid-- one who is dead. He's different from all the others. (That's why he's so kick ass) He's not a "Real Shinigami" because he didn't take the course. That' why he's called a "Shinigami Representative"

There is no character with as much potential as he has. Because of that unique combination.

That's why fillers are disliked, because if they are not twisting the original plot...they usually add nothing and instead take away from the "Original Manga storyline" Which makes them fillers...because they don't add anything to the "original story" So they do not count...

That's why most of us manga devotee's skip them.

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