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Old 2012-05-17, 13:07   Link #21475
mangamuscle
formerly ogon bat
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Mexico
Age: 53
Oh my, seems am a little late to the party, but here I go!

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Originally Posted by Vexx View Post
Heh, here's an idea Jorge -- fix the problem. Mexico is effectively a failed state unless it can deal with these modern feudal warlords.
We would already have a long time ago, but there is a little problem in your assumption, TBT this is an economical problem, not a drugs or violence problem. Money flows from the north due to drug-trafficking and that money is used to buy assault weapons in the USA (something many politicians in cohots with the NRA have denied even tough the proof is there). To solve this problem weapons and ammunition would have to stop coming to Mexico from the USA, it is imposible to close the border, but it is quite posible to stop weapon trafficking if it comer by sea (from china or russia) or by land (on the south we have a tiny frontier that can be easily closed if need be). In the end the real problem is the USA and as you have said, the weapons industry does not want this to change, they are making too much money out of our misery. The problem is no different from the blood diamonds problem in africa.

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^ View Post
the majority of people in the US would love a stable and coherent government in Mexico. If nothig else the illegal immagriants form SA would stop in Mexico instead moving further North.
You fail to realize two things. What the majority thinks is worth a damn nowadays in the USA, what the lobbysts want, now THAT is important. To stop cold in its tracks illegal immigration you only need to stop paying illegal immigrant for their work, but that will not happen since the USA was built upon slave labor, then upon immigrant labor and now upon illegal immigrant labor (only because a shift in strategy, a hundred years ago to become an american citizen you only needed to sign a paper).

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Repeatedly? US and Mexico fought only 1 war, 2 if you count Texas.
Alqaeda has not fought even one war with the USA but everyone agrees alqaeda messed with the USA, in your opinion how many wars need to be fought to mess with the interests of a foreign country?

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Mexico's problem is 95% of its own making. US didn't force a PRI dictatorship on Mexico for a century. Mexico develop that on its own.
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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone View Post
The US intervened in Mexican domestic politics, for instance, during the Mexican revolution of the 1910s, the United States supported Mexico's dictator Porfirio Diaz.
I do not believe the USA suported Porfirio Diaz and the reason is simple, who do you think sold the so called revolutionaries the weapons to fight against porfirio diaz? The USA weapon industry, if the USA goverment wanted to support Diaz they would have stopped the weapn supply and ended the revolution before it even started. The USA was never bothered by the lack of democracy in mexico during the 70 years the PRI ruled, in a sense that is support for a goverment, during the same period the USA did denounced cuba, the USSR and china for their lack of democracy.
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