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Originally Posted by Kylon99
I think the problem that we run into, if they are flesh and blood on the gameboard, is that flesh and blood can die. And once flesh and blood dies, they can't continue to move around and do stuff.
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But THAT is the trick that we are supposed to figure out isn't it?! How is a person that is supposed to be dead, has been declared dead and who we have seen to be killed able to move around and meet up with people?
We learn that the name Kanon is exclusive to the person who was given the name Kanon, yet Kanon is dead and Kanon appeared in front of the servants. This is nothing else than Kumasawa turning into a witch or the witch Beatrice calling Battler from the study...it's a problem which we have to think around and reinvent so that it doesn't need magic, only that this one works on a more substantial level than for example a magically locked door.
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How does this fit in with Will's solution? And if they are both really dead, then it's not Kanon who killed Nanjo and led Jessica out after all then?
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Will's solution exists beside this problem. Beginning and end overlap is merely a way to say that Kinzô was thrown in the furnace first and it all ended when Shannon was killed in the parlour. Of course the solution is different and needs a reinterpretation of events, but in the magical narrative of Umineko the witch Beatrice killed both Kanon and Shannon, locked them in different places and thus removed them from the game. In the end she revived Kanon and made him save Jessica. It was the black witch who killed Nanjô.
This, in my opinion, isn't a simple "exchange Eva-Shkannontrice for Yasu and you've got the solution" thing. It's necessary to understand the basic principles of the gameboards to restructure the whole plot and make sense of it. The way I understand it magic does exist in the basic narrative (just like we are shown Shannon having tea-time with Beatrice, Kinzô rambling in his study and so on), these things do happen, we have to understand how this could work in terms of a realistic understanding of the events on Rokkenjima. Basically the killings of the family members in a way they weren't killed is no less "fantasy" than a person being split into different characters.