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Originally Posted by kagato3

Because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to control himself as nearly all his thoughts were, "that sounded realy erotic that can't be right". And the fact he is on a first name basis with her does show he is closer then just a classmate

He was forced to do that. Just like he is always forced to be around her. Has he ever voluntarily spent time with her?

Originally Posted by kagato3

No he has tried to be there for her and at the time she chose her revenge rather then him. It isn't untill after the events of volume 4 that she starts to turn away from that path.

Spoiler for volume 2:

"I beg you. Even if it's little, even if it is a little it's okay. If Yoshino appears from the other world this time, try talking to her— Just like what you said, there might be evil Spirits out there. But, Tohka and Yoshino— I don't know how am I going to put this into words but…they are really...good people…! Those girls are really kind, they are so kind that it is rare to find them even in human society……!"

"………"

Without saying anything, Origami was staring at Shidou in a very calm state.

It was quiet. But he could not feel that cold and mysterious air anymore; it was a mysterious gaze instead.

"………"

—Ah, I see. Shidou finally realized it.

He knew that Origami had no authority to make left and right decisions for the AST.

But even so, the reason for him to specially take on the risk of leakage of information just so that he can talk to Origami about this matter—it is because he just had to do it.

Of course, the biggest reason was to save Yoshino, but that was not the only reason he had.

That was, he felt that he finally understood it by experiencing it directly.

"I—see, I………"

Once again, Shidou faced his eyes towards Origami.

"I……I think I want to do something about Yoshino— I want to save her, I also want you to accept Tohka too. However, on the same level as those wishes. I don't want you, Tobiichi—yes, I don't want you to kill all those...good people…!"

Er, that quote is something I should be using against you, not the other way around. He is there for Yoshino. He is begging with Origami on Yoshino's behalf. And his only wish is for her not to kill the people he is there to defend. It's still for the spirits sake not hers.

Originally Posted by kagato3

first it has never been hinted that Kurumi became psycho from her deaths in fact it seems she is useing her deaths to drive Mana psycho. the AST had nothing to do with the Twins that was DEM. And I don't see how any of this refutes what I said She has an irrational hatred born from watching her home burn, having her parents murdered in front of her and then getting the hell beat out of her when she was 12 along with the added AST and DEM propaganda that Spirit = Evil. nor does it change she is not in command.

You said that every spirit they encountered acted hostile to them. None of them except Kurumi has. And from what has been spoiled from future volumes her whole motivation is based around preventing the other spirits from experiencing her pain.

Originally Posted by kagato3

Just because he hasn't had the need to doesn't mean he wouldn't and while it wasn't just for her he did so at the end of volume 4.

Ok, fine. He probably would. But he hasn't yet.

Originally Posted by kagato3

And yet thats what they do. They are Damage control pure and simple. They are like biteing ants painful and annoying enough that the Spirits go away. and its not like the ATS knows they are pulled there against their will since they don't talk to them. Origami only found out because Shidou told her.

Spoiler for volume 1:

"Good work."

There, wearing the same wiring suit as Origami, stood a woman in her mid-20s with her hand on her hip.

Captain Kusakabe Ryouko. The commanding officer of the AST that Origami belonged to.

"You did great driving off that Spirit by yourself. ...I gave a strict lecture to Tomonara and Kagaya. What were they thinking, retreating and leaving the Spirit to Origami alone."

"I didn't drive it away."

Origami replied, and Ryouko shrugged.

"Well, I've gotta report it like that to the top. If we don't show some results the budget's gonna drop."

"..."

"C'mon, don't make such a face. I'm praising you after all. In this situation where the ace's seat is still empty, you're making a great effort. Also, if you weren't there, the number of additional people who'd have died isn't just one or two."

Fuuuu, she exhaled her breath.

"But hey,"

Ryouko sharpened her gaze, grabbed Origami's head and turned it towards herself.

"You went a bit overboard. —Do you want to die so badly?"

"..."

With her sharp gaze still fixated on Origami, Ryouko continued.

"Do you really understand what kind of opponent you're fighting here? That's a monster for god's sake. A hurricane with intelligence. —Do you understand? Within your abilities, suppress the damage to the minimum, within your abilities, make it lost as early as possible. That is our job. Don't pointlessly expose yourself to danger."

"—That's wrong."

Origami replied while looking Ryouko straight in the eyes, and once again opened her lips slightly.

"To defeat the Spirits, that is the duty of the AST."

"..."

Ryouko frowned.

As the captain of the AST, she was supposed to have understood the name of the Anti Spirit Team much more so than Origami.

Because she understood, she stated.

—We can't manage to do any more than suppress the damage.

However, while acknowledging that, Origami repeated once again.

"—I will, defeat, the Spirits."

"..."

Ryouko let out a sigh, and removed her hands from Origami's head.

"...I wasn't planning on hearing what you personally think. Think what you want. —However, if it seems like you'll go against a command while on the battlefield, you'll be removed from the team."

Maybe it is because noone knows how that happened. Shidou made a big deal about it and Tohka had no clue. And the AST is under strict orders not to atack Touka because as far as the AST investagation has turned up she is not only human but one of the citizens that they have to protect. She also did ask Shidou about things, twice, once in Volume 2 and then in volume 5.

Spoiler for volume 2:

[Princess].

From that code-name, Origami twitched her eyebrows a little.

Not knowing the exact details of what she went through but the Spirit that held that code-name was now, the human girl— Yatogami Tohka, who was attending the same high school as Origami.

Of course, Origami having confirmed Tohka’s existence, had informed Ryouko about it.

But for some reason they couldn't detect a Spirit reading coming from her, thus the assault permission wasn't granted.

Asking for the impossible and then having her family register investigated, they were unable to find anything suspicious.

At the very least, at this time —although Origami was extremely dissatisfied— she was a Japanese citizen, an existence that was Origami's duty to protect.

My point was how nonsensical this part is. Her commander openly states "We have no way to actually win, we just fire till it leaves." Yet for some reason Tohka not only appeared without a space quake, but is apparently no longer a spirit. They should have investigated that. Again, this is a complaint about the series, not Origami, since it's just a plot hole plain and simple.

However, my biggest complaint about her can be summed up as this. Between her and any of the spirits, who would Shidou choose to protect? The spirit or Origami? He would always, always choose the spirit.

Here's how I see it.

Tohka

First Impression:The first two times he met Tohka, she almost killed him.

Reaction: Jumps headlong into the situation to save her.


Yoshino

First Impression: She almost killed him and endangered his relationship with Tohka, then went berserk over a toy rabbit

Reaction: Get skinned alive by hail storm to return rabbit

Kurumi

First Impression: Nice at first, then psycho crazy bitch who tries to kill everyone

Reaction: Jump in front of Kamehameha level blast to save her, without token immortality

Origami

First impression: She tried to save him from Tohka

Reaction: Ignore her to save the spirits