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Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Making blanket statements don't help you're arguement nevermind that your wrong again.

I'm just making a statement about the anime that I know a few others agree with - some of the main characters are annoying.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Except they do have talent and skills lead their group and have proven themselves already.
Mikado managed thawt Namie and saved Anri in the second half, Anri put Saika into excellent use for info gathering and protecting Dollar members. Kida had earned the respect of his gang long ago for being a great fighter.
Their didn't their places by luck, you know this if you're paying attention.

You're making excuses with poor examples.

First, Izaya helped Mikado put the organization together. If it wasn't for him, I'm sure the Dollars would still be a bunch of backwater nobodies. Also, all he did was call a meeting to thwart Namie...the result was still nothing happening. He showed zero leadership skills before and after this even. The only think Mikado did was basically call a meeting - he really did absolutely nothing to help put together the Dollars structure, foundation, organization, etc (which was all done by recruiters or people like Izaya)...

Kida earned their respect through brute force, but he was obviously not cut out to be leader. If he was such a great fighter, why couldn't he save his girl? Cuz he was a little punk coward at that time who had no leadership qualities or courage.

Anri uses her powers at inopportune times, and doesn't even follow through with it to solve problems in the long run.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

And what's wrong with that? She only wanted information on the their leader not to start a fight. Then make a desicion on what to do, that's being smart.
Because she couldn't believe it that's why, which is perfectly understandable, and besides she had no know idea that Celty was in the Dollars to begin with.

Yeh, so apparently mind controlling YS members and then infiltrating their base isn't going to start a fight?

And no, it's not understandable. The people already told her Kida was the leader.
I don't see how it could be a shock if she already knew the leader's identity.

What good would running away after seeing him do? She infiltrated their damn base...and of course, she leeches off of Celty to make a dramatic entrance, pulls out her slasher sword, etc...all that resulted was her causing more problems for everyone.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Even she had gotten involved YS would have fought the Dollars regardless, as the Slasher was simply an excuse to do so.

It doesn't exactly help that she is mind controlling their members, sneaking into their base, calling on the black rider to almost run their members over with a motorcycle, pull out a slasher sword, etc

All she did was give them more suspicion that the slasher was with the dollars and the black rider.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Except she just did numerous times as I mentioned before. By your logic there is no way Celty can't ever be good because of her origin as a hairbringer of death or, Shizuo's strength can't ever be good because it's inherently destructive. Saika is still just a tool like any of the others and as long as Anri is the one in control, no one is any danger.

The problem is Anri's power can mind control people, and her sword has a mind of its own. She is literally a walking time bomb. It's only a matter of time before she goes nuts and starts enslaving the city as her personal army. Her own personality is already a weak and feeble minded person who relies on others. It wouldn't be a surprise if Saki takes her over.

Besides, did you forget the part where she slices off Celty's head? (the real Sakia/Anri and not Haruna I assume) That's attempted murder, and would've been murder if Celty wasn't a headless rider. And she had the slasher attack her bullies with a sword... yeah, they were bullies, but attacking them with a sword? Common...

Anri is mentally unstable with a dangerous power. So yes, she is far more dangerous than Celty or Izaya. Celty has powers, but she isn't weak minded with a dangerous cursed sword that could implode any minute.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Furthermore how is she self-righteous or, arrogant at the end? She knows Izaya is person behind everything and doesn't want her friends being manipulate by him anymore. Really what are you talking about here?

All Izaya did was fan the fires a little. The fire itself was started by Anri/Mikado/Kida in the first place. They themselves are far more responsible for the situation than Izaya was. The entire situation could've been avoided if the 3 kids knew something called "dialogue."

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

Once again you're not making sense here, how again is Anri the one who has been her best to help her friends more danger to Tokyo than a asshole who plans to turn the city into a battle field for his own selfish goal and entertainment?

Like I said before, she is a walking timebomb. She has a weak mind, and a dangerous sword with a mind of its own...a sword that plans to take over the world with mind control.

That is way more dangerous than Izaya, who just likes to see people in chaotic situations.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

No all the people YS attacked were part of the Dollars, did forget that they went asking if they were or not?

Exactly, so disbanding the Dollars would do absolutely nothing to stop the gang war. The fact that the kid thought it would shows he is not cut out to be any sort of leader.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

No cowardice would be him not make any decision whatsoever and letting the situation fester. Telling them to fight would just drag more innocent people into the fight be them Dollars or, not. It does help that he lacked info YS even after talking to Izaya. By choosing to disband things would have died down and YS would end up arrested, and he just start back up again if he wanted.

Which is basically what he did. Disbanding the organization means he would no longer have to make any decision. It didn't help whatsoever and the situation just got worse. He should've already known that disbanding an organization that has no tags would not help stop a gang war because the other side would just target anybody.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

He was ignoring the calls because he did not want to speak to anyone.

a.k.a. not making a decision and letting a bad situation fester...cowardice

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

No, look at last episode again, she came to speak to him about Anri and Kida not fight some gang war.

Yet she slapped Kida and ran away AGAIN. The moment Kida came up to speak to her she should've explained the situation...which would've probably have calmed down the situation. Instead, what does she do? She runs away!

Cowardice and stupidity.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

lol, and when did this happen? Blue Squares attacked his gang and girlfriend why in world he ever let one in his gang? That's right because it never happened they joined long after he left. He didn't even know about them until the second-to-last episode.
So who exactly isn't paying attention to plot again?
Because he was in shock and was not sure if Izaya was telling the truth or not. I agree that he should talked to Mikado about it, but Mikado would deny it unless Kida revealed himself first.

And whose fault is that again? Doesn't that mean there was no coordination and no organization under and after Kida's tenure as leader. This just proves he was never cut out to be leader!

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

BS never followed his authority whenever he wasn't looking. They were never loyal to begin with and very little can be done about that other kicking them out.

Which means they still followed his authority upfront, and didn't dare to disobey him. That means Kida STILL had power and control over the organization. They began to opening defy and disobey Kida after Kida squandered his opportunities and let the situation get worse.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

No he definitely tried to keep them under control and even got physical with Horoda, interesting who Dollar leader was and if there was any real connection to the Slasher. Unfortunately for him BS members like Horoda were ones controlling the group from the shadows.

Which did absolutely nothing. He already knew about Mikado, yet he didn't bother helping resolve the Dollars problem, and beat up his own members. Geee...that doesn't sound like leadership material to me.
Horoda didn't control the group until Kida betrayed them by doing NOTHING, and then ran away without giving them orders for a while.