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Old 2011-11-23, 13:42   Link #25904
Jan-Poo
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Simple, there were no murder game in EP1 and 2, the theory really started going out after ep3 and 4. It kinda solidify in ep5 and was really present in ep6.
And how do you explain Hideyoshi lying about Shannon's corpse?


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Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
That's all sensible, but we were talking about a what-if scenario with Genji being completely innocent of any involvement in real murder (his lies being merely part of what he thought was a murder game).
It's hard to explain that scenario without at least Genji knowing Yasu's real plan.
You'd need to think that he still thought everything is fake after seeing the real corpses of Nanjo, Kumasawa, George, Hideyoshi and Yasu herself.

In particular I'd think he'd check that Nanjo and Kumasawa are in place before going to tell Rosa that he found them, but they had to be already dead at that time, it would be very difficult for Yasu to kill them in the short time span where Genji went to tell Rosa and then quickly move to Natsuhi's room and prepare her own death.

However if they were already dead when Genji checked Kumasawa and Nanjo, it's quite hard to believe he didn't talk them or try to talk to them.

Lastly if he found out people died for real only at that point I'd think even him couldn't maintain his cool, especially after seeing Yasu dead as well.


EDIT: Anyway, what about this?

The whole lot of Genji, Kumasawa, Nanjo, Gohda and George are waiting for the next instructions. Yasu tells Genji to remain inside the servant room, in case Rosa or Battler tries to contanct them, one must be there and stall them. Then she tells George and Gohda to go to Natsuhi's room and prepare the scene for the next closed room scenario (they had to mess it up right?) in the meantime she'll help Nanjo and Kumasawa with their makeup so that their death will be realistic.
After she is alone with Nanjo and Kumasawa at the right place, she gives them the most realistical makeup ever. then she goes to Natsuhi's room where George and Gohda have made a mess out of Natsuhi's room as per plan. Yasu tells them "good job" and then "rewards" them for their efforts. At that point she makes a call to Genji she tells him "all is set, go to Rosa and bring her to where Kumasawa and Nanjo are". Genji being a robot obeys blindly to the order without checking Nanjo and Kumasawa first. In the meantime Yasu closes the door and then kills herself with the method described by Ryuukishi.

How about that?


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Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
Well, in Rondo (the PS3 version of Umineko) we are actually shown a whole bag full of Sakutarous at Kawabata's place. There are various theories about this, ranging from "Rosa just bought some random mass-produced toy and lied to Maria when she said she made it" to "Rosa made Sakutarou for Maria and later had her company mass-produce Sakutarou", as well as some others.
It was hinted inside the story itself that Sakutaro was a mass produced toy.
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