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Old 2011-09-13, 21:20   Link #39
Tiresias
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Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by Zero Hurricane View Post
It looks pretty good, but even better is if they immediately make a weaponized vaccine that will be installed to each Device. Maybe such a high dosage magical tranquilizer that capable to destroying Eclipse influence once and for all.
I think you meant antidote. They better make it a fast-acting one though.

And it would be a challenge on firing them due to the no-kill policy. Hit them when they're flying too high and the heroes would be heroically obliged to save them from going SPLAT

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At least put a hot lead into somebody's head, or more extreme, behead someone, could be a last resort when faced with such an enemy. As we know, since the Strikers, the enemy faced increasingly strong, even the enemy's behavior became more and more wild and uncontrollable. Even there is a enemy who couldn't be befriended.

As Mao Zedong said: "The true power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
Well the problem with that is that the heroes have a no-kill policy, and I doubt Tsuzuki will ever have the balls to change that. Which is fine when they can fire spells that can puncture battleships while leaving organics battered but alive, but wooops, they don't fire magic anymore....

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
Every other teleporter in the franchise was aiming for a more distant location than Deville, and one they couldn't even see without magic.

It only makes sense that a short-range teleport to a place you can see would be faster, maybe even easier. Maybe even something that you learn as a intermediary step towards being able to teleport to other continents, let alone to other PLANETS.
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Same with Nanoha, allowing her shields to spread away from herself before appearing. It's not that he's going teleport crazy, but rather that he's being pragmatic with it. Which isn't the most clevar thing in the history of evar, but is a whole lot more ruthless than about 99% of the antagonists in all of the series.
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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon View Post
Let's also keep in mind that DeVille wasn't actually using the teleport in a sustained fight--he used it to make a sneak attack on two different characters--not once do we see him attempt to use it mid-battle against Fate.

Hell, we barely see the fight as it is, and if he was teleporting, we'd probably see it happen in the few snippets we got when he battled Fate.
Back in season one I think there's a scene where Yuuno teleported Arf and himself away from the Fate VS Nanoha fight and IIRC it took him a moment of spellcasting, so it's probably not instantaneous. Useful for entering fights, but probably not something he can spam. They're different from flash-steps IMO

But yes, teleportation as a whole is a very underused aspect in the later Nanoha stories, whether it be in tactical or strategic level, which is an unpleasant suprise considering how they've abused them in TOS and A's

The "Search for Touma" par in Touma would probably end faster (though with Signum still KO'ed considering she would be playing vanguard) had Hayate sent someone, whether someone teleport-capable or just by using teleportation pads on the Wolfram, to recover the trio in the meantime.

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The Wolkenritter... Well, the side materials say that Dimensional Teleport isn't normally a spell Ancient Belkans learned or used, so short-range movement may be something they've never actively tried to master or incorporate into their fighting styles. Especially since they can already move pretty darn fast, conventionally. Probably went against their knightly idea of combat, just like shooting and bombardment magic, and capture spells.
Shooting and bombardment? Signum didn't seem to have any problems using Sturm Falken.

(not to mention that chivalry died because of the rise of superior firepower, something that the Wolkies possess in a frightening amount, so you really must wonder just what her standards of chivalry are )

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Originally Posted by Kuze View Post
- Engaging in enclosed spaces, and not going MAXIMUM POWER, is inconclusive. The Huckebein are too resistant (and sufficiently skilled in weapons handling) to be put down by anything less than going postal, one on one.

- This also means that re;Deville, the proper exchange against him is for Fate to attack, and /then/ Nanoha blasts him with Full Power once Fate is clear, instead of just looking on. But then again, teamwork had ....trouble in StrikerS also. Too much already said in that old military thread, Tsuzuki hasn't improved his writing there, moving on.
I, too, like the idea of teamwork very much. But alas, Tsuzuki's attempts at it (or lack of thereof) has been really disappointing...

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- Going for proper ambushes and most importantly not letting H's react would work quite well, yes.
Speaking of ambushes, I wonder if the TSAB has any early warning systems in their colonies especially since every Eclipse infectee's seems to always target unprotected villages. How are they going to respond to new attacks - follow the trail of dead civilians?

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but there's always the Kenshin route of creating vacuums with your lesser ougi and expecting the full out power to not do anything like, I dunno, kill Shishio?
Ougi...and the Nanohaverse equivalent is magic, isn't? I don't remember the AEC's having magical coatings in their shots.

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
Does Arnage need ammo for every kind of weapons she can transform her divider into or the ammo transforms as well ?
She`s using missiles with guiding system !
Probably. Makes you wonder where she procure them though. Maybe their ship can manufacture them?
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