[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Apathy

Not at all, in my opinion: it's nice to get a detailed summary of what went on in the latest episode. =3 Please don't feel obliged to make it long, though: again, it's just nice to know what happened, as this episode is that confusing.

Yes, this is the reason I'm forced to change some name (like using "gretel" for Meta Ange who is with Meta Battler and Beato) and the additional lines.

I'm assuming that

Spoiler for Maria and Battler:

Maria is only a witch in the meta-world, though?

Also, interesting that some of the confusion about Battler was cleared up, concerning who was his mother (does it also answer the 'there was never someone called Battler' thing, or is that a different matter entirely?). In that case, though, does Asumu having powers have anything to do with anythiing other than Rudolf wanting to stay with her? I'm assuming that Battler's powers can no longer be linked to her, though...

Thanks, again.

Some precisions

Spoiler for Maria and Battler:

Yes, Maria is only a witch in the Meta World, but she does appear in Ange's world (1998 that is).

As for Battler, in fact, to summary a bunch (I will explain it thoroughly once my summary get there), Beatrice was deceiving Battler about his own identity.
Battler is, unlike what some fake spoilers claim, not a demon or whatnot. However, Beato made a clear rule that only a descendant of Kinzo can challenge her.
When Beato forced Battler to declare in red he is Asumu's son, he was unable to do so, and he thought he was an impostor, unable to figure who he is. Because he isn't the son of Ushiromiya Asumu, he "concluded" he cannot be Ushirmiya Battler and disappear.

There IS a Ushiromiya Battler that is the son of Asumu, but Meta/current Battler is NOT this Ushiromiya Battler. Beato stated that people can have the same surname and first name. So, we have 2 HUMANS called Ushiromiya Battler. We don't know about Asumu's Battler, but the current one DOES exist and IS human.

However, Ange outwit Beato and forced Battler to think about it, as Beato never stated in red that Meta Battler wasn't Kinzo's grandchild, therefore her rule is still fulfilled.
The thing is that even Beato could say he wasn't Rudolf's son to make things worse, but she didn't. Therefore, it is highly hinted that Battler is Kyrie's son, or Asumu/rudolf did something fishy, like Rias said.
Or maybe it is another mistress' child... who knows? Rudolf is a philanderer after all (I'm unsure that Battler is Kyrie's son, because she said that she had miscarriage, therefore, the baby could never be "born" to begin with)

And I don't think the game ever stated that Asumu had any kind of power. As for Battler's, it seems it is like everyone else: Kinzo's blood has magical potency, even though the nutty grandfather was said to have no magical talent, except using aria for Barriers and Summoning ceremony/evocation.