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Originally Posted by grey_1960
Does Sengoku have Haki? If he does can Sengoku use it as well as others like Garp and other major users?
I ask this because during the battle at White Beard Luffy used his devil fruit to protect Ace and No. Three from Sengoku's attack. Sengoku couldn't get past it.
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As Luffy, thanks to his rubber body, is impervious to strict blunt damage (though blunt attacks
can draw blood from him, as seen when Coby, in W7, lands a kick on him - but they can't damage him, evident when two clean attacks from Moria, empowered with 1000 Shadows, didn't affect him in the slightest), it should be inferred that Sengoku infused his punch with CoA.
^Though it is a little bit odd that Sengoku did relatively little damage to Luffy with his punch, but I guess fist fighting isn't Buddha's strong suit... Or, more likely, Luffy was able to endure it so well because his spirit's were unparalleled at that point; he was on the verge of saving Ace (and Luffy's resilience has always been his most spectacular attribute).
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Originally Posted by grey_1960
Now when Garp punches people he can literally punch people out of there devil fruit form. Like the time Marco tried to free Ace on the platform. Marco was in full Phoenix mode and garp managed to punch him out of it and give him a bruise in the face too.
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While Garp certainly is impressive in his old age, not even his CoA can mimic Yami Yami no Mi's ability to suppress Devil Fruit powers. Specifically, while CoA gives you the capacity (assuming sufficient prowess with it, and no other interference (e.g. Akainu's ability to defend against CoA attacks)) to bypass Luffy's rubber properties and affect his
real (i.e. made of normal flesh and blood) body, you can't disable, even momentarily, someone's Devil Fruit with it.
The more probable explanation is that Marco by his own choice transformed into his human form after he was knocked back by Garp.
Furthermore, your post imply that the bruise Garp's punch gave Marco should be attributed to Garp's CoA. While there is truth in it, considering CoA can be used to empower one's attacks, the suggestion that one needs CoA to hurt Marco is wrong. Marco's Phoenix fruit gives him the ability to
heal; it doesn't migrate damage in any other way (ala logia's intagnability, Luffy's rubber body etc.).