[Mahou]

Originally Posted by Mystic_Vegetto

I finally got around to finishing Hapymaher over the week. But I gotta ask something that's been bugging me about the True Route.

Spoiler:

Exactly how much of it was "Real"? Were the other routes real at all? It seems to hint in the True Route that the other routes might have been a Dream within a Dream..or something like that. Given that when Tooru finally wakes up, Saki is back on top of him like in the beginning of the game, does that mean when the game started...Tooru was already in the Dream and didn't wake up until the end of the True Route? I just don't get it.

My Japanese is basically limited to listening to the voices, but I couldn't understand the really complicated stuff.

I shared your confusion after my playtrhough months ago .

Spoiler for Happymahre:

Not that my comprehension is much better, but that was my same conclusion as well. That every route sans true was a dream within a dream (and sometimes again within a dream during a route). I thought so because once the real "Alice" has woken up, Keiko, for example, still hasn't known Tooru, whereas he got to know her normally within the common route of the dream-dream thus he kept the knowledge (one ability people, who do have those lucid dreams, possess). So yeah, True-Alice created a huuuge dream-location where her alter ego could be free and healthy and every route was basically one "fairytale" that could occur. That's at least based on my poor memory.
So I guess Tooru started in a dream and those dreams within that dream were created by Maia (his nightmares).

Speaking about criticism, let's not forget the recent uproar caused by the English release of "Kono Oozora ni, Tsubasa wo Hirogete" released by Moenovel under the name "If my hearts had wings".

The all-age-ification of the ero was one (huge) reason to my understanding. Other issues were - from what I read - the poor english translation and even removing harmess scenes like hugging, sexual harrasement jokes (which I couldn't remember or maybe blantantly missed them) and kiss scenes. The latter I found to be also head-scratching. Remove *the* important moment before it gets steamy of a romance novel and you have the same as a racing game, where you can only view the cars, but not drive them. To be fair, I don't remember if kiss scenes (as CG or not) being removed is actually common. In Sakurasou they remained, iirc, for example. Personally, I'm fine with all-ages in general, but it feels strange at first after being exposed to ero "all day along" .