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Originally Posted by Darknemo2000
He got that far though not because of his own strength or determination but because all the big ones were occupied within themselves, when Luffy had to face them he looked weak. If not Whitebeards help Luffy would have been dead together with Ace. Luffy's determination, power-ups, experience and all that usual shounen boosts were quite useless.
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That's the point, the reason shounen main characters win isn't only because of friendship or effort, though that plays a part. They win because they have power in the first place. If you're weak, you'll lose even though you have friends or try hard. Though, it's a chicken and egg kind of question: do you have power because you're the main character, or is it because you have power that you're the main character?
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Originally Posted by 17Sevens
I suspect some people have decided that Medaka Box is a deconstruction of all things shounen and then get upset when certain parts don't seem to match up their idea of what a deconstruction should be. I personally think MB has fun with shounen tropes, while sometimes containing deconstructive elements (particularly the characters of Kumagawa and Ajimu, though not always). But! I don't need it to be or not be a deconstruction to enjoy it! Even when I don't always like the direction of the manga, it's still damn entertaining every week. And thus, I sincerely enjoy it. /endrant
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Yeah, people don't realise that you can't deconstruct everything all the time.