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Old 2010-01-11, 10:57   Link #6633
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He also liked to wear military uniforms, hang out with his aristocratic and military supporters, and come up with hair brained schemes to get out of the political hole he dug himself into. Just because he was a Prime Minister doesn't mean the government was actually very democratic, Hitler was an elected chancellor after all and according to some sources Prince Schniezel also held the position of Britannia's PM/Chancellor.
Regardless, he did not rule with an iron fist. If anything, Kyoto held more sway than he did behind the scenes. Schneizel is Britannia's Prime Minister, but is not al powerful. He still answers to the Emperor.

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However in becoming an Honorary Britannian you technically cease to be a Number, legally that is, which is where I assume that it would probably open doors such as the children of Honorary Britannians becoming Britannians because it's a matter of cultural assimilation.
Wrong. Numbers who become Honorary Britannians are still Numbers, just Numbers with slightly better rights. Stop trying to base the idea on Roman citizenship. It isn't the same.

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And this somehow makes them worse than the NSA/CIA?
The latter isn't completely apathetic to Numbers being treated like dirt, nor do they murder indiscriminately, so yeah.

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If Britannians were really concerned about racial "purity" Villeta Nu wouldn't have held a noble title, Suzaku Kururgi wouldn't have been promoted into the Emperor's personal unit of agents, and Rakshata wouldn't have been gone to the Imperial Academy/University/whatever. Moreover if that were the case I doubt literal Non-honorary Britannian Numbers would be wandering all over the damn settlement with nary a glance from anyone.
Villetta was a full Britannian citizen, not a number raised up from a conquered nation. Suzaku was a glaring exception that never got full Britannian citizenship despite everything he did (and since you seem to have watched very little of the show, he had to bribe his way into the KoR). What's wrong with Rakshata going to an imperial academy, exactly? She is not a Number, but a member of a foreign country.

Non-Honorary Britannians don't wander around the settlement that much. In fact, most are Honorary Britannians. You're exaggerating.

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I doubt any more than anyone in the real world. When presented with such a situation the response for most is likely to be to fight (In the case of soldiers) or flee (In the case of civilians) then ask questions later, and they aren't going to fight their buddies. I'm sure there's some psychological experiment about this somewhere. Shinjuku was thoroughly covered up, Saitama was a legitimate police action, and any thoughts about SAZ were probably killed and buried under the rubble of a collapsed settlement before they could be heard.
This is patent nonsense. Real-world soldiers don't go around intentionally massacring entire towns just because a few terrorists are in there. Shinjuku was glossed over by the media. The soldiers there knew damn well what they were doing. Same for Saitama. The SAZ was publicly announced and broadcast on national TV with nothing but civilians in attendance, and the soldiers were all too happy to kill every last person in attendance given the chance.

Are you honestly saying the real-world military acts like this?

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"Red Tape" is only a concern when you aren't in a dictatorship, then you can just drag the offending adhesive out back and give it the "Stalin special".
Flawed logic. There's an entire governmental system, and making change, even when you're at the top, doesn't happen that fast unless you're killing people left and right like Lelouch did.

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As I recall, the Invasion [and subsequent annexation of] Japan was on the tail end of the Second Pacific War which was basically a World War between all the major factions and Japan ergo, they were already not being taken very well by the Chinese.

Oh yeah, what about NAC? What were they spending all their loads of money on?
A cold war would be more accurate. World War happened near the end of the show. They weren't in such a war when Japan was conquered.
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