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Old 2011-04-28, 13:29   Link #30
MaiNoKen
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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone View Post
The difference is largely due to Europe consisting of Nation States, the USA is not a Nation State, but more of a political entity. The doctrine of Nationalism is what is ultimately causing the problem, IE we're a group and this is our land through some divine right. The reality is that most of these "nations" have not existed for very long, and even if they have historically large portions of the population were not from that nation.
As playing a bit of devil advocate and being orthodox in word/phrase meaning, what is your precise definition of a political entity and a nation state? How do those two concepts different? How would you define nationalism itself?

If people (Italians, Germans, Irish) defines a nation, how would you define people? There were European experiments to "build a nation" out of a broken fragments (such as Italy, Germany, Yugoslavia out from Prussia, Bavaria, Papal States, Genoa, Serbia, Croatia...). Some worked (Germany, Italy) and some didn't (Yugoslavia). Why Bismark and Garibaldi succeed in "making and building" Germans and Italians? And why Tito failed in making "Yugoslavs"?

What is building a nation out from economic, language, religious differences - given the differences are much larger among "Yugoslavs" than among Germans and Italians... And even up to today, economic difference between northern and southern Italy had persisted... from the days of Garibaldi.

I wish to hear your opinion, and everyone welcome to respond or to troll me
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