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Old 2012-10-23, 00:12   Link #30981
chronotrig
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Originally Posted by DaBackpack View Post
Actually, that red is false as it is stated in EP2:

When I speak the truth, I will use the red. means that everything not in red is a lie. (contrapositive). But we have several cases where Beatrice has spoken the truth without using the red.

I think it's supposed to be When I use the red, I am speaking the truth.
The two are not interchangeable. This is a fault of Ryukishi's.
Nah, no fault on Ryuukishi here, though you could probably take issue with our translation, especially that far back.

Beatrice doesn't say "whenever I say something true, I will use the red". She's saying "when I'm talking about the truth, I'll use red". Or "when I tell you what the truth is, I'll make a point of using red". She's talking about a thing she'll do at some time in the future.

Beatrice doesn't actually define what the red means until her next line, "Everything I speak in red is the truth".
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