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Old 2012-07-31, 09:02   Link #43
SoldierOfDarkness
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 38
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Originally Posted by Revolutionist View Post
Sorry but to say that all vagans are monsters and deserve to be exterminated based on the actions of a few bad apples is just stupid.
That's an understatement.

Nobody said anything about exterminating but at the moment since the majority of the Vagans are gung-ho to the death ti's kinda hard to be sympathetic on their end.

And as others have pointed out, wars usually end when one side has kicked the crap out of the other one.

It's obvious that all 3 protagonists will end the war together but like I said in SEED for example Kira was only successful because there were moderate factions on both sides. This was shown throughout the show.

In AGE even after seeing the other Vagans, their mindset isn't that much more different than the military.

Regardless though it doesn't excuse them for the actions nor makes them sympathetic to begin with. I mean it's not like the Federation was oppressing them to begin with and we know that the Federation was offering peace treaties with them too. We also know that the reasons they failed was because Ezcelant was not interested in peace to begin with.

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It's an issue with the writing, but you have to assume that the majority of them aren't advocating genocide. There's probably people with resentment towards the Earthnoids like Dean but to go from that to everyone being psychos....
Okay it's bad when the audience has to start assuming these things because that's really bad writing on this part. It's really bad to start making things up to simply try to humanize a character when the show hasn't gone anywhere in that route.

Look at Mass Effect 3. Everything was suppose to be open to spectulations and assumptions and look where that took them.

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And if we are going for the "Good guys win" ending, all bad people must die/prosecuted, save all innocent Vagans and other not so bad pilots, and the Asuno family will be reunited.
Well obviously nobody is arguing about that.

What's mind boggling is the fact that some people are calling the Vagans angels and honorable despite what we've seen and their only argument to back it up is to simply "assume"
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