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Old 2013-08-13, 06:18   Link #38
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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA View Post

The magic in the Nasuverse on the other hand is limited by many factors: the starting "energy level" of the initiator, the energy required to make what they want to happen, happen, and the pathway/mechanism to make something happen which in turn affects how much energy is needed.
You speak of this limitation, but how often does it actually come into effect? How often is a Nasuverse protagonist not able to achieve what they want to achieve purely due to lack of "magical energy"?

In Nasuverse, as in virtually every universe where a lot of combat goes on, some combatants are simply more experienced, powerful, tougher, well-armed, etc... than others. That's not particularly scientific.

It should also be noted that the Nasuverse does have its Holy Grail, who's only real limitation seems to lay in the mind of its user.


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Gilgamesh lost.
Due to hubris, not lack of ability. Gilgamesh also completely and totally flaunted the laws of physics in Fate/Zero.


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Of course, but I'm merely stating that magic, especially Nasuverse magic has its limitations based on the world's principles... or at least Nasu's idea of the metaphysical world.
It's not the world's principles, that's for sure.


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The problem is that it's not as simple as "wish it and it will happen", because in that case people like Shirou and Archer should be able to trace a perfect copy of divine weapons like Excalibur and Ea with no problems. Miyu also shouldn't need Gae Bolg for a sure kill. Why can't she or Ilya just imagine their enemies getting obliterated and have it happen right then and there?
Good grief, man. Nobody said that individual magic-users were essentially omnipotent. But magic itself in Nasuverse does not conform to science. It enables people to break the laws of physics. It lets people do some things that would otherwise be impossible.


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Floating in midair also means the person has no footing needed to put your weight behind melee attacks and defense.
If you fly at someone and make a good melee attack while doing so, you're putting quite a bit of added force behind it. More than someone merely air walking.


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That's merely your preference to fly over air walking.
No, it's not. Flight does allow objective advantages over air walking. Flight is smoother, more versatile, and potentially faster.

Question: Aside from teleportation, what's the shortest way to get from Point A to Point B?

Answer: A straight line.

With flight, you can always get to a desired mid-air destination in a straight line, as long as you aim yourself properly. With air walking/leaping, you may often have to take many separate leaps to get there. With air walking/leaping, you're not moving in a straight line.
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