[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Fervor

Let's actually take a look at what he did wrong.

1. Cheat on psycho girl.
2. Cheat on Sekai.
3. Be insensitive to psycho girl and Sekai.

If you boil it down to the basics, that's it.

Ouch...calling her the "psycho girl" right off the bat is painful...very very painful...

So I take it that you haven't notice that Sekai lost the plot as well or is your hate for kotonoha that great you can't see anything else

For the record, he wasn't just being insensitive...he was being a total SCUM of the earth...

All of the other girls were using him just as much as he was using them. All of the other girls knew that he was dating someone else. He didn't force anyone. Remember that in the Japanese culture (or anime/hentai, anyways), Japanese girls are supposed to pretend like they are struggling and say 'no' even when they really want it. There is a line but I don't think he crossed it.

And that just gives him to right to be a playboy.

I'm sorry, but I just can't accept his attitude as being right as a human being. Sure they flocked over them but did he really have to think with the lower end of his penis? What he did was being untruthful to the people he had relationships with.

First it was kotonoha where he claimed that he loved her to the depth of hell - well, hell is certainly one place he would be ending up

Then he had the nerve to cheat on kotonoha AND TO NOT BREAK UP WITH HER EVEN THOUGH HIS FEELINGS HAPPEN TO HAVE SHIFTED TO SEKAI. Not that for me is the most unforgiveable act he did. If he had split up with kotonoha in the first place then she would have led a happy life. If she still ended up going batshit over it then I can say that it is her fault, but as it stands makoto is the main reason why she turned psycho.

Even him being insensitive was a pretty standard 'guy' tactic of breaking up with someone. Just ignore them until they get the message.

Bull...These types of guys are the worse type ever...yet like you say, it is standard. (filthy male scums >.>).

The way he dealt with the pregnancy is pretty standard 'guy' behavior as well, especially considering he's a high school kid and Sekai announced the pregancy to the entire school.

Great...so I should make someone pregnant and then deny it...what a way to live
Anyway, because it is "standard" as you say, doesn't make the act a right thing to do.

Anyways, I'm not condoning what he did. I think I need more background on psycho girl for why she's so crazy. There was no explanation, so watching her go crazy was when the series starting to lose touch with reality.

What else do you need? We have see how she has degraded to that state after a series of neglect, confusion and bullying. She had a will of steel to not breakdown earlier infact.

I do completely understand the point of the series though. Considering the popularity of the harem genre, it's fun to see the extreme of what might happen in a real harem situation.

Heh, anyways, I have no idea why it seems like I'm defending him. I did really enjoy this new approach to the harem genre, and the overkill ending was entertaining as well.

I really have no idea why you are defending him either seen as it is all his (and partially sekai's) fault.

There is no way that this being psycho girl's first relationship or Makoto's insensitivity can possibly explain her total craziness. She is a whack job, lunatic, etc. There is no way that can normally happen. Heartbreak and betrayal hurts, but it doesn't make a normal person go psychotic. From the very beginning, there were hints of something not quite right with her.

Oh for hell's sakes...Some people are more insecure than others...for kotonoha it was like the sky crashing down on her to have endure what she did only to be told that his boyfriend has been cheating on her all this time, she even got raped goddamit. From the start we see how insecure she really is...no friends, being bullied all the time? what do you expect when she finds love that was ultimately destroyed?

I think of myself as a really nice, understanding guy, but seriously...in high school, if that many girls threw themselves at me, I don't think I could have resisted. The problem is that once you cheat, it becomes easier and easier. Once he cheated with Sekai, it was a slippery slope.

This is where personal morales come into play...while some think it is alright to cheat, I personally think that such an act is disgusting. I wouldn't want to cheat on my girlfriend and I would expect her to do the same.

As for the pregnancy, both are equally to blame for their situation. They were both wrong to hook up in the first place and then not use protection. How men deal with unplanned pregnancies is a pretty common TV plotline that is often used to show their character. We already knew Makoto is weak, so him running away from the situation is quite understandable. I don't know if many high school boys would handle that situation well. Plenty of adult men run away and shirk their responsibilities.

Which isn't a good thing...

"Be a man" is my response If you can't deal with such a situation don't cause it yourself in the first place. It takes two to tango and if you are involved, be a man and take some responsibility dammit.

This is why makoto is such a jerk that shouldn't be saved...he crossed the line when he "accepted" kotonoha AGAIN and fcked sekai's head up by snogging kotonoha in front of her.Geez...