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Old 2012-10-09, 15:24   Link #9384
Xiammes
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But Hatfield was operating along with Strom around the same time that Nanami was still alive. Why would two people who aren't clones have the same fragment at the same time.
Everyone gets 1 fragment, it makes more sense that their are two people with the same fragment then to believe Hattfield has 2 fragments(the ability to control water and summon rain).

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And why would he always announce "Aqua Corral" only when using the defensive spiral, but instead say Rain Needle, Rain Hammer, Rain Laser, and Rain Grinder for the other techniques?
Maybe because Aqua Coral is the basic technique of the Aqua Coral fragment, like Kandata string is the basic technique of the Kandata String fragment.


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If he says the name of his fragment when activating his power, then why not say it as a prefix to Rain Hammer, Rain Laser, etc. Either way its inconsistent. It's only consistent if they were technique names in each instance.
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Its to sound cool, also it might be a translation problem

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And 'level of expertise' is not the only observable difference in their power. The ability to control water at will would mean you could hurl it at high pressure speeds to blast someone back, wash it over someone and hold it there to drown them, whip them around with powerful waves, fire hose people, etc.


HatField did things that merely controlling water doesn't cover. He *changed* waters properties. He could make a hammer out of water and actually smash people with it.

That involves no sense of velocity or pressure, he could just physically smash people without the water engulfing his target--he could make its surface be like a wall. He could impale people with spikes made of water at close range. No ability to really build up any speed or anything, he could simply will Water to become sharp like a spear

That involves no sense of velocity or pressure, he could just physically smash people without the water engulfing his target--he could make its surface be like a wall. He could impale people with spikes made of water at close range. No ability to really build up any speed or anything, he could simply will Water to become sharp like a spear. Again, if all you did was control water, you'd be able to make it take the shape of a spike, but how would you actually drive it through someone at close range, without hurling it at Mach 7 or something? He also made a Destructo Disc out of water that cut a large Mecha in half without moving at supersonic speeds.
It can be explained as lolfiction, that does not prove that they didn't have the same ability, it was explained early that his rain could already pierce diamonds, attaching logic to how its possible won't make any since.



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The level of difference between how they ultimately function, imho, is almost like that between Fire and Agnishwattas. They're similar powers, but one seems to be manipulating that power in a completely different physical way that the other is incapable of.

Aruka did say that her power was the highest level of the fire/heat types of fragments.
Again, Agnishwattas is not a fire fragment, its a thermal energy fragment their is no such thing as "water energy fragment" the closest you will get is a kinetic energy fragment, which wouldn't allow him to control just water.


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Given that, it's not a stretch to believe that there are different types and levels of other elemental related fragments. In fact, I'd bet that the Resistance Leader's Clay Armor fragment and Misaki's Felsen Sand are distantly related.
Zakado's fragment was called Felson Avalanche, Misaki's called hers Felsen Sand, they could be the same power, but I haven't seen enough of of Zakado's power to say so yet.
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