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Old 2012-01-26, 19:15   Link #2127
Solace
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Originally Posted by flying ^ View Post


omfg are you libs willing to cede North American energy security to.......... 800 pound gorilla named CHINA?!
I really felt the need to reply to this stupidity.

1. North American energy security? The oil gets pumped through the pipeline to the Gulf Coast, and shipped across the world. We do not get to keep it all to ourselves.

2. The amount of jobs added building the pipeline are overshadowed by the jobs remaining after the line is built. So while you will have added jobs, no matter how you spin it there really won't be that many.

3. The US won't own the pipeline.

4. The existing pipeline has already leaked numerous times.

5. No nation on the planet has energy security, because the era of fossil fuels is rapidly ending. You can deny it just like people deny climate change though.

6. Speaking of fossil fuels and climate change, have you actually seen the scale of the operation?



Those little dots of trucks? Here's what they look like "up close":



You can easily see the site from space:



This isn't just "energy". It's planetary destruction on a suicidal level. It's not strip mining, it's literally skinning the planet. We will never gain more energy from the oil than we spent getting it. That right there is a clear indicator that it is a waste of time. However in addition to that, the sheer amount of resources, precious resources, spent getting this crap out of the earth is staggering. The net energy loss, resource waste, and pollution should all be huge indicators that this is not worth it, but since the planet can't kick its addiction to burning dead plants and animals, this is what we get.

The whole issue of energy is honestly something for a specific thread on the topic, but please don't be deluded by political talking points revolving around junk like jobs and China.
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