[TrueKnight]

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

There's no right or wrong in the matter but Layfon's cover-up causes trouble, he should have told why he did that in clear detail. There would be no misunderstanding then. For that reason, if there's anyone to blame, it's Layfon for deceiving them all.

It’s his right to keep all of it to himself, when finally being questioned he answered them. And Layfon was good enough with his admirable feats while he’s in Zuellni, saving her lives and the people in the city, doing his duties admirably as a soldier, and already being duly punished in Grendan. Told what he did in clear and detail? Sure if only Nina wasn’t’ so forceful with her views like ‘I wouldn’t accept them’. Instead try judging thoroughly she enforce her ideal by saying they probably couldn’t be in the same platoon anymore because their ideals and motive clashes. She tend to forgot that it was because of him that she and the thing she wanted to protect the most, Zuellni, are still alive and well.

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

Leerin doesn't know what it is so she doesn't know what to do with it. All she did back then was heeding to bird fairy's call. And even if Layfon or others knew about the secret, they wouldn't know what Leerin can do so it's eventually up to her to use initiative. But she wouldn't do that because she doesn't know what haikizoku is.

If Nina had exposed her secret, and then Leerin had been told by Layfon, then she would’ve known that her prayer is the key for Nina’s trouble. If Layfon’s besides her, then when the goat activates it could’ve been subdued.

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

She was okay for the moment and she didn't know the extent of its influence. She couldn't abandon them with Myath on the doorstep and she would of course want to participate in the battle, she has been putting her all for that next city battle. She wouldn't miss it, I guess you should know why based on her past.

She knew that it could eventually hinder her duty as a squad captain. A good leader would’ve realize that their own liability could affect her team in the long-run should not treated early. The right treatment for Nina is quarantine with the squad including Layfon looking after her, with Leerin finally arrives later.

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

As I told before, goat already was altering their route and it would continue to do so. In ep 23, did you see Layfon or Felli going against the president when he said he wants to extract the goat? No. So your presumption is void.

Did you see Layfon or Felli following the president’s order to further extracting Zuellni or the Haikizoku out of Nina when she’s in their custody. They didn’t do it, so your reasoning is wrong. The same situation would’ve apply should Nina decide to expose her secret back then.

[quote=Ultramarinus] First of all, she couldn't give a break without letting out the reason. Second is that Myath battle is what she's been looking towards in these last years. She was alright up until ep 22 anyway. Did you ever see Leerin and Layfon talking or thinking about how to suppress it after their exchange at the hospital? No. That shows that they still have no idea what to do about it. [/quot]

In all roundup, she was unfit to lead because she knew she was sick, without considering the effect of what could’ve happen midway should the goat activates, which she realized she also couldn’t control it. She also hid her secret when should she should’ve exposed them in ep 20 to avoid further trouble earlier on. Leerin and Layfon couldn’t even think about it because she already went missing in the first place and they’reall pre-occupied in finding her.

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

Yeah but I just applied your logic, it could all have been prevented if Layfon sacrificed himself, like you expect Nina to sacrifice herself. We had talked about ep 17 before, she was alone and she had lost communication after falling down to the room. There wasn't really an option to pull out while Czellni laid beneath the goat's feet anyway (we also know how much s he loves the fairy) and she took her chance, haikizoku had already begun to channel his power afterward.

Meaning she’s weak, not strong as Layfon, couldn’t control the goat’s power and should’ve realized and exposed them sooner in ep 20. But she didn’t. She ended up being a liability to her team.

Originally Posted by Ultramarinus

Taking lightly, what's that? That's what exactly Layfon does with those misdeeds as he loses the HB as a direct result. Losing such an honor for petty cash, smearing the school's reputation as well. The president can blackmail him, why? Because it would ruin his reputation to the ground and the city would be a living hell to him even if he could stay, as his misdeeds are against everything their military artists stand for. We also saw that during ep 19, when the president lectured a dumbfounded Layfon about their pride. Their stance on the issue could be anything on the spectrum of Nina to Gorneo. And I doubt many would be as lenient as Nina, recall Dinn and those other no-name captains with their snob attitude towards even Nina?

There's also the fact that it was only the queen's initiative that he was spared from the axe and we heard nothing good about him from any other HB users so far. So his misdeeds are universally against all military artists' creeds.

The misdeeds were when he’s at Grendan, he was punished. Afterwards he punished himself by using the katana and not violating all the rules in Zuellni. He accepted the president’s offer in the end, eventhough with all that fiasco Kallian or Zuellni wouldn’t have released such invaluable and capable fighter, unlike Nina. The pride of all military artist? Zuellni had a weak military and the administration secretly had been relying to Layfon for help. When finally asked for help, eventhough Kallian knew they’re doomed but finally they, the artists knew that even them can be useful for a change in order to protect the city. Nina lenient? More like her squad were made out of losers back then, with her in the helm and not accepting people’s principle I really pity Layfon. Finally, his misdeeds weren’t against all military artist, but by the rule of her-majesty Grendan in his position as an HB, which was exposing the danger that MA’s possibly aren’t humans. If you’re not an HB then you could be like what the Salinvans as military artists. Support illegal activities and works for money. I doubt the rules of Grendan could apply even apply to Zuellni or Myath.