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Old 2009-05-30, 17:44   Link #19659
Betteroffer
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I am also of the opinion that Kallen would not opt for suicide. Despite the death of Naoto and the belief that her mother didn't love her, she didn't opt for suicide then, at least not in the classical sense but more the "Suicide by Cop" trope. She wanted death, we know that, but she wanted it to be a death that meant something. With her mother alive, and knowing she had someone who did love her, I believe Kallen would definately try to stay alive to be with her.

Beyond that, I could see her either as the jaded cynic and emotional mess if she never got ZR.

People have been saying that Lelouch never intended for Kallen and Nunally (or ANYONE) to understand ZR (very likely, but is there a Word of God on this?), but this discussion, as Frost said, makes Lelouch seem sadistic if he knew Kallen as well as he did, and never intended for her to understand ZR. Perhaps he believed she would be able to put it behind her, and believe in the 'spirit' of Zero, rather than the man underneath? She did say early on that she refused to see him and Zero as one person, and he knew she'd been able to push through some pretty harsh experiences in her life before.

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Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness View Post
you mean in the END ?
after he died ?
i dont think she'd let up until she learned the truth (given that he was killed by ZERO)
but i dont think jaded and cynical as much as confused and unsure of herself
I actually started wondering why the core BK who knew Lelouch was Zero didn't do this.

The whole message they should have got from Zero was that they had been screwed over by a masked psycho and they let it happen simply because he got them results. It took them nearly two years to see it (and from outside sources rather than personal deduction), but this new Zero has done all that in his first appearance.

ZeroZaku Killed the old Zero and, rather than turn to the BK and said "Zero is the symbol of the UFN, take the outfit and elect the 'true' successor since for all I know, you all knew Zero and would have a line of succession set up," he turned around and said "Nunally I killed your brother, let me be your bodyguard/nanny forever, even though as Zero I should be a symbol of opposing evil systems, rather than suddenly subordinating myself to the very empire I have been fighting since my creation."

Beyond this, there's the implications that the UFN has effectively lost its rallying point and symbol to Britannia, and this Zero has very quickly made his way into power by effectively being the new Empress' Knight of One.

And the core BK just rolled over and said "Eh, we got Japan back, it's not our problem?" They didn't think "Hey wait, this seems like a familiar situation that hurt us very very badly in the past?" It seems to me that they had personal and pragmatic reasons to demand knowledge of this new Zero's identity, or at least to demand he relenquish the 'Zero' name and be some other masked nanny (Maid Guy Suzaku perhaps?). I know that it would have screwed up ZR, but realistically why didn't this come up?
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