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gaguri · 2007-12-02, 04:48

@Atsushi

Here's a speculation I made years ago, and still unchanged. I have yet to meet anyone sharing my opinion, because justifiably, it's bit random and far-fetched, but I myself still prefer it than having to take Lucy as answer.

Spoiler:

People might not remember this, but the director, who ordered the hunting and researching of diclonius, is diclonius himself. Now, like other majority of diclonius, he too wants to create a world for diclonius. Although unlike other diclonius we have come to know, like Lucy and Nana who at some points wished to create a world only for diclonius because they didn't want to be discriminated against, he probably just wanted to do this to become the 'creator', for power, etc. but that's besides the point. He wants this world to be of diclonius, not humans.

So at the end, we see the female researcher wanting to take a bath. At this, the director makes a rhetorical question, I think something on the line of 'why take a bath, it's almost over' and takes his wig off to show her his diclonius nature. To me, although subtle, this is a strong implication of him intending to produce (or mass produce) diclonius by mating with her. I guess it makes more sense for him to produce them via cloning technology, but the implication was what I saw, unmistakably. I could be overanalysing this scene, and I guess it's valid for anyone to come up now and say 'thats stupid', but that's what I got.

So ultimately, the person behind the silhoutte is one of the evil diclonius produced by the director, in order to kill all humans to make a world for diclonius.

Now, how does this all tie in with the music box and the clock? For me, the music of Lilium symbolises the hope, inner goodness that existed within the heart of diclonius, despite their desire to kill everyone. Lucy was horribly discriminated, she cursed the world. Then Kouta's lilium music box enters like a light, diffusing that gloomy darkness of her heart. It shows that there still can exist a genuine love and care between two people, even if one is a diclonius and one is a human. And Lucy accepted that. I think that is why it was so powerful when lilium was played over the climax where Lucy and Kouta hugged each other, because it reminds you of why they're still in love with each other, despite all the wrongs they inflicted.

But when the killer diclonius visits Kouta, the music stops because there no longer exists that music and harmony between diclonius and humans. The love between Kouta and Lucy, which was such a hope for the peace between two races, the possibilty of two races understanding each other without discriminating, has collapsed. And so has that bridge between diclonius and humans.

And then the clock rings the sound of doom. I suppose Nyu tried to fix the clock but failed, because although her inner evil Lucy, and the evil diclonius nature, wanted to begin the 'time for diclonius, and end for humans', she loves Kouta (who is human) too much, and his love is also binding her from acting on her intuition. Now there is nothing stopping from ringing the end of time for humans, because from that point, it's time for diclonius to start making place for themselves by killing off all humans.

It was a very grim, almost horror-like ending for me, and obviously very different from the happy and hopeful endings of Lucy coming back alive with all her evil sides chopped off. I guess either interpretation is fine, and one could make interpretations that are different from these two (although I haven't read of one yet). It just depends on how you responded to the anime in general and views on the characters, the messages that the anime was trying to convey.

Hope if that helped ^_^b. Thanks anyway for at least making an opportunity to talk about stuff more interesting and less retarded than trying to answer the question of 'how a girl can not die from being gunned closeshot by a group of trained gunners in a realistic manner'. It's good to know that there is one less ostrich out there, burying his head inside the ground. Yes, he can't see anything so there is nothing to worry about, but I wonder if he realises that his ass is still showing.

2007-12-02, 04:48	Link #1998
gaguri Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	@Atsushi Here's a speculation I made years ago, and still unchanged. I have yet to meet anyone sharing my opinion, because justifiably, it's bit random and far-fetched, but I myself still prefer it than having to take Lucy as answer. Spoiler: People might not remember this, but the director, who ordered the hunting and researching of diclonius, is diclonius himself. Now, like other majority of diclonius, he too wants to create a world for diclonius. Although unlike other diclonius we have come to know, like Lucy and Nana who at some points wished to create a world only for diclonius because they didn't want to be discriminated against, he probably just wanted to do this to become the 'creator', for power, etc. but that's besides the point. He wants this world to be of diclonius, not humans. So at the end, we see the female researcher wanting to take a bath. At this, the director makes a rhetorical question, I think something on the line of 'why take a bath, it's almost over' and takes his wig off to show her his diclonius nature. To me, although subtle, this is a strong implication of him intending to produce (or mass produce) diclonius by mating with her. I guess it makes more sense for him to produce them via cloning technology, but the implication was what I saw, unmistakably. I could be overanalysing this scene, and I guess it's valid for anyone to come up now and say 'thats stupid', but that's what I got. So ultimately, the person behind the silhoutte is one of the evil diclonius produced by the director, in order to kill all humans to make a world for diclonius. Now, how does this all tie in with the music box and the clock? For me, the music of Lilium symbolises the hope, inner goodness that existed within the heart of diclonius, despite their desire to kill everyone. Lucy was horribly discriminated, she cursed the world. Then Kouta's lilium music box enters like a light, diffusing that gloomy darkness of her heart. It shows that there still can exist a genuine love and care between two people, even if one is a diclonius and one is a human. And Lucy accepted that. I think that is why it was so powerful when lilium was played over the climax where Lucy and Kouta hugged each other, because it reminds you of why they're still in love with each other, despite all the wrongs they inflicted. But when the killer diclonius visits Kouta, the music stops because there no longer exists that music and harmony between diclonius and humans. The love between Kouta and Lucy, which was such a hope for the peace between two races, the possibilty of two races understanding each other without discriminating, has collapsed. And so has that bridge between diclonius and humans. And then the clock rings the sound of doom. I suppose Nyu tried to fix the clock but failed, because although her inner evil Lucy, and the evil diclonius nature, wanted to begin the 'time for diclonius, and end for humans', she loves Kouta (who is human) too much, and his love is also binding her from acting on her intuition. Now there is nothing stopping from ringing the end of time for humans, because from that point, it's time for diclonius to start making place for themselves by killing off all humans. It was a very grim, almost horror-like ending for me, and obviously very different from the happy and hopeful endings of Lucy coming back alive with all her evil sides chopped off. I guess either interpretation is fine, and one could make interpretations that are different from these two (although I haven't read of one yet). It just depends on how you responded to the anime in general and views on the characters, the messages that the anime was trying to convey. Hope if that helped ^_^b. Thanks anyway for at least making an opportunity to talk about stuff more interesting and less retarded than trying to answer the question of 'how a girl can not die from being gunned closeshot by a group of trained gunners in a realistic manner'. It's good to know that there is one less ostrich out there, burying his head inside the ground. Yes, he can't see anything so there is nothing to worry about, but I wonder if he realises that his ass is still showing.