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Old 2013-03-02, 02:22   Link #31992
theacefrehley
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Originally Posted by jjblue1 View Post
Ryukishi showed us that each fragment seemed to match a story. Logically one would expect that each story will have a matching fragment.
If you want to believe any kind of story, no matter how absurd it is, yes.
If you want to restrict and say some kinds of stories do not have a fragment, why not? If Bern searched enough, would she find a fragment where Yasu is adopted by Japan's emperor?

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Originally Posted by AuraTwilight View Post
Because that's how infinity WORKS. If something is possible at all, then it will happen infinite times no matter how many times you keep going.

For there to be infinite possibilities is like saying that the dice never stops rolling, ever, no matter what. So even if we have a special die so that certain numbers come up more often, like saying there's only one 1 but 100 0's on the dice, then there's going to be 'more' 0's than 1's, but YOU'RE ROLLING FOREVER, so there's going to be an infinite number of 1's too. No matter what. It just means that those 1's are outnumbered, and are probably spaced farther apart.
But how can you be sure that's how the sea of fragments work?
What if that universe allowed 17 fragments with Lion and infinite tragic Yasu fragments? 17+ infinite = infinite
How do you know it's growing and growing with every possibility?



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Because in an infinite set, everything that is possible occurs, no matter how unlikely. The only way a fragment cannot exist is if the fragment is 100% unable to occur under any possible arrangement of circumstances.

Otherwise it's not infinite. It's just a whole bunch.
As I said, how can you be sure every imaginable story has an equivalent fragment?
What about an infinite set of tragic events? It's a smaller set of infinite compared to tragic+happy, but it's still infinite



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High school mathematics. Bern already stated that the sea is full of infinite possibilities.
Did she say it to them (Lion&co)? How can they be sure she's telling the truth?
What if it's a tragic universe and there are infinite tragic fragments only? Infinite =/= All
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