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Old 2012-01-13, 07:29   Link #71
El_Negro
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Ok yeah, but how much better would that have made things in the long run? Knowing the truth that Madara was the true enemy behind the Kyuubi attack might've prevented the massacre of the Uchiha clan but it still doesn't change the fact that Madara is an Uchiha. It's his bloodline that gives him that power. A power every other Uchiha has the potential to wield. For the elders and Danzou, that just confirms how dangerous they are.

Let's say Itachi stopped the coup and take control of the Uchiha under Sarutobi's authority. How many are going to truly support him after he shows more loyalty to Konoha than his clan? Maybe the majority would be obedient because of his strength, but then there are those who could continue to rebel and become missing nin or even threats like Madara. The Konoha/Uchiha alliance was already uneasy before. Think things would get better or worse after the Uchiha revealed themselves willing to betray Konoha? How long could peace last before the old Senju/Uchiha grudges came up like they did before? A generation. Two or three maybe? To say the conflict would be finally be buried forever with a truce is hard to say. No matter how you look at it, it would be a fragile relationship-- easy to break and difficult to maintain.
Okay so your'e saying basically to kill everyone off because of the actions of one person right?

The coup de tat was planned after the nine tails attack, the Elders wrongfully accused them after the attack, leading to immediate segregation, and as Hunter said negotiations were only made amongst themselves (The Hokage and the Elders, with the Hokage trying to reach a peaceful solution) to deal with the Uchiha treatment. I don't recall Uchiha getting any proper representation and if they did we can't/don't know what they were asking for in their "supposed" negotiations, for all I know it could be better treatment or a fair trail to hear their side of the story for a change or to probably leave the village, we cannot say for sure.

I can tell you that there are some of the people who live with the Uchiha Clan who do not inherit/possess their powerful abilities, those could be people who marry into the Clan, these people who do not inherit their abilities but still serve as members of the clan such as Sasuke's Aunt or Uncle who run their Gift Shop (I don't see them performing any Fireball Jutsu's), some who do the small grunt work or like his Mother who's probably a stay at home mom. There maybe some who don't even know about their hidden coup (remember it's hidden to those who are in the Konoha Military Police Force, the only person outside the KMPF was Fugaku's wife and that's because he was the Clan Leader/Coup Leader) it could be those kids that are Sasuke's age or younger but because they are Uchiha kill them off too for fear they grow up to become uber strong like Madara, we don't know if all of them are capable of reaching Madara's level and it was stated that Madara was an exceptionally gifted member who had high level's of chakra thus making him a perfect candidate to reach god-like status. To reach that level requires lethal methods such as killing someone close to you (close relative). Your'e making it sound as though every-member of the Uchiha clan has exceptional chakra level's like Madara's, we don't know and we can't say for sure only Kishi could confirm this. Still, these innocent didn't deserve this treatment. This is why Sasuke's on a romp right now in offing every-member of konoha including the innocent ones who are enjoying the peace and stability his clansmen (All Uchiha People)were sacrificed for NOT JUST ITACHI. Everyone is looking at the clan as an evil clan need I remind you that there are some who are good (Obito & Shisui are just one for starters).


And I'm pretty sure that if the Uchiha rebellion was stomped the first time by itachi and sarutobi, they would dare not try a second time or it would probably take a very long time too to do so again, because by this point itachi and sarutobi would put strict policies in place on any clan in konoha who would attempt to plot a coup. It's even true in real life once a coup immediately fails the Government immediately establishes harsher rules/policies or means to prevent another attempt, that's why coup de tat are a win or lose, do or die situation either you succeed and become the new regime or fail and become imprisoned traitors or worst face the death penalty. At least it wouldn't lead to a 4th Ninja war with all Nations being affected. An ultimatum could be offered to the non-rebels of the Uchiha Clan, either stay in konoha or leave and form your own damn village, choice is theirs.

Eitherway the Elders handled the situation poorly and left itachi with a choice (Us or them?) itachi choose Us (Konoha) for HIS want of peace and stability. Genocide is still a horrendous crime eitherway you look at it, there had to be other options.

Last edited by El_Negro; 2012-01-13 at 14:17.
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