Ah, nice to know why "Yasu" as a name caused to much laughter.
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Originally Posted by Wanderer
Anyway, a common point of view in this community is that Yasu presents herself as the culprit through the stories, but isn't really the culprit.
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Just noticed something interesting in that regard and it reminded me of that imageboard (seacats.com or something) where dozens of Rosatrice followers fell without Shkanon followers even saying anything. Specifically, it reminds me of a certain little monologue:
Spoiler for Monologue of a former Rosatrice follower:
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Ahahahaha. I get it, I get it now, how magnificent, and how utterly foolish at the same time...
"Don't forget the heart, because in the end, the why matters more than the how, the heart matters more than the ways.
Without love it cannot be seen, don't lose focus of the heart, and try, don't stop thinking, because this heart, this tale,
is a mystery.
Maybe only one in a thousand will get that tale, but I wish one more would, but it can't be helped, the solution can't be reached
without opening your heart. You just have to turn the chessboard over, and you'll get the solution from the culprit itself.
Yet so many trample on the witch's mystery and its twisted truth,did they forget that the key wasn't hidden in the witch's truth,
but in the very pen that writed this tale ?"
Ahahaha ! I can see it now... Everything, everything makes way too much sense now. I feel exactly like Battler at the end of Episode 5.
Ryukishi, how foolish and beautiful at the same time. All of this for that answer, but I guess it cannot be otherwise, this is
the way everything was built for.
Ah, I feel stupid to have made this thread now, but it did made me think and I think I really do, now, understand Umineko.
Ryukishi is probably saying "Just as planned" now isn't he ?
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Little side note: Though I think I understand what he's playing at, sometimes I still wonder whether what he and I see are really the same things - I just don't think the revelation "EP7-Yasu is possibly more about prime and thus the author, whose self-insert is the culprit in the stories" is that much of a ... breakthrough. Maybe he unearthed something really earthshattering and I just think that I understand. Oh darn you Ryu for creating this eternal doubt.
If we look at Bern's game it's quite amusing how
■ Outside of spoken statements, there are no lies in the narration.
The complete opposite from Beato's games, where the narration is clearly lying to us (too). Now consider these three rules Bern had in her little game:
■ It is possible for a culprit to lie.
■ It is possible for a culprit to lie even before committing murder.
■ Characters who are not culprits only speak the truth.
So... who is the narration, who speaks to us then? If anything, the author. I propose that the author him-/herself is the culprit and thus allowed to lie to us, though he/she might've not been a culprit YET.
Guess you could draw one of two conclusions from this:
a) Either, both Yasu and Tohya might've done something in Prime. They are culprits and can lie. If you don't have an issue with assuming Yasu did something, it might connect Bern's game a bit more with the overall story. Or, if EP1 and EP2 were written after 1986, based upon Yasu's original scripts from before 1986, maybe just Tohya.
b) Might just refer to the self-insert of the author being the culprit in the stories, though this could then only refer to the "original author", since Tohya was the Detective for four episodes. Even though his role changed a tad in EP5 and EP6, sure.
Not saying that this means anything really. It's just a nice little coincidence I suppose.
Well then, Ryukishi. What did you do? Since you are the biggest liar through which the lesser liar Yasu lies to us?
